While reading the Walking The Dog thread, I started thinking maybe a collapsible baton might be a good thing to have. I started looking around, but quickly got confused. Apparently some of them you have to bang the tip on the ground to get them to collapse? I would appreciate some guidance & recommendations from the knowledgeable people here. Thanks for your help!
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Back in my dog walking days, I went to the hardware store (they had them back then) and got my self a large hardwood dowel rod to use as a walking stick and a "just in case."
Faulkner
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I was LEO certified to carry an ASP collapsible baton a dozen years ago and still carry one. Yes, you do have to give a good tap on the end on a hard surface to get them to collapse. The good ones anyway. You certainly don't want it in inadvertently collapsing at an inopportune moment when you are trying to use it.
DR505
US Veteran
I too have trained with and carry an ASP. I've got a 16" and a 21" for work. They are handy for recalcitrant folks and poking things you don't want to touch, like during a search warrant at a meth house.
We have 2 guys that walk about a 3 mile area out where I live and they both carry golf putters.
The law is weird.....
Can't carry a pipe. How about a sturdy walking cane? Hickory?
Can't carry a pipe. How about a sturdy walking cane? Hickory?
Straightshooter2
US Veteran
From what I've been able to find online, the states which prohibit collapsible batons are the usual suspects plus a few other states. This is the list I could find of states which prohibit batons but it could have changed.
California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Kansas, Massachusetts, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Nevada, New York State, Tennessee, Texas, Washington DC, Washington State, Wisconsin
I haven't been able to find anything on Georgia but since our license is a Weapons Carry License which pretty much covers most any offensive or defensive weapon, I would expect them to be legal here. I keep an ASP in the globe box of the car.
timn8er, I didn't find anything on Oklahoma but I would still check your state and local laws.
CW
California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Kansas, Massachusetts, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Nevada, New York State, Tennessee, Texas, Washington DC, Washington State, Wisconsin
I haven't been able to find anything on Georgia but since our license is a Weapons Carry License which pretty much covers most any offensive or defensive weapon, I would expect them to be legal here. I keep an ASP in the globe box of the car.
timn8er, I didn't find anything on Oklahoma but I would still check your state and local laws.
CW
Alpo
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BudK Self Defense Impact Baton
This is what I've got. I'd heard about these "spring coshes" before, and when it arrived, I truly was not real impressed.
Then I took it out in the yard and starting with it closed, flicked my wrist and swung, and was cutting inch and a half thick branches from an oak tree. Not "tearing the branch loose from the trunk" - breaking the branch in two. Now I was impressed.
Florida "Concealed Weapons Permit" makes a lot of stuff legal.
This one has a metal tip - not plastic like Bud's. Might be better. Costs more.
http://www.selfdefenseproducts.com/Expandable-Spring-Baton-p-16165.html
This is what I've got. I'd heard about these "spring coshes" before, and when it arrived, I truly was not real impressed.
Then I took it out in the yard and starting with it closed, flicked my wrist and swung, and was cutting inch and a half thick branches from an oak tree. Not "tearing the branch loose from the trunk" - breaking the branch in two. Now I was impressed.
Florida "Concealed Weapons Permit" makes a lot of stuff legal.
This one has a metal tip - not plastic like Bud's. Might be better. Costs more.
http://www.selfdefenseproducts.com/Expandable-Spring-Baton-p-16165.html
Fishslayer
US Veteran, Absent Comrade
^^^ This. Always pays to know the laws. I was told that in Kalifornistan a pistol in yer pocket with no permit = misdemeanor and weapons like knives & such can be a felony.
99% certain a baton is illegal in my area.2ndAmendmentNut
Member
Maglight is the brand that comes to mind, but I am sure there are other flashlights that use the large "D" batteries. Anyways those metal bodied flashlights can make one heck of a club should you need it. No permit necessary and doesn't look one bit suspicious.
Malpasowildlifer
SWCA Member
Make sure expandable batons are legal in your area. If so, the best one is the Bonowi. It is an expandable baton with a Camlock design; you press a button at the end of the grip to collapse it.
Batons
It is completely balanced, unlike most others with a majority of the weight in the handle.
I think only one company imports them to the US; in Utah I think. That is where I got mine.
I'd carry it on duty but since my agency is almost too dumb to function, I can't, as policy says we can only carry expandable batons made in the US.
Batons
It is completely balanced, unlike most others with a majority of the weight in the handle.
I think only one company imports them to the US; in Utah I think. That is where I got mine.
I'd carry it on duty but since my agency is almost too dumb to function, I can't, as policy says we can only carry expandable batons made in the US.
safearm
US Veteran
CAJUNLAWYER
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T ball bat
LoboGunLeather
US Veteran
I've known a lot of truckers over the years who carried "tire thumpers", used to verify tire inflation but also wicked for self-defense.
A baseball bat behind the car seat or on the floor can come in handy. Keep your old baseball glove and a baseball with the bat to avoid any possible inference that it is carried as a weapon.
A tire iron left on the floor of the truck is easily explainable, but potentially very useful in an ugly situation.
Multiple knee surgeries over the years have left me with periodic need of a cane or walking stick, so I keep one in the truck. The old fashioned wooden canes (ash, oak, or other hardwoods) are excellent for other potential needs, and I have yet to see a business or building with "no canes" signs posted.
The good old Irish blackthorn walking stick (shillelagh) is a very stylish gentlemens' accessory with a long history as a close quarters weapon. I have read that they were prohibited several times over the years because of the reputation developed by their use during "the troubles".
A roll of nickels can easily be carried in your pocket. When gripped in the fist this adds considerable impact to a punch. Handy for parking meters, too, thus a ready explanation for having them. Haven't heard of any "carrying concealed money" laws.
The better quality ballpoint pens (brass or steel construction) can be put to devastating use at close quarters, but no one will ever accuse you of carrying a weapon. I've been given several gift sets over the years.
Anything that the manufacturer describes or advertises as a weapon is likely to be interpreted as a weapon. There are any number of other products that can perform as well or better than the expanding batons with little possibility of such an interpretation holding up in court.
A baseball bat behind the car seat or on the floor can come in handy. Keep your old baseball glove and a baseball with the bat to avoid any possible inference that it is carried as a weapon.
A tire iron left on the floor of the truck is easily explainable, but potentially very useful in an ugly situation.
Multiple knee surgeries over the years have left me with periodic need of a cane or walking stick, so I keep one in the truck. The old fashioned wooden canes (ash, oak, or other hardwoods) are excellent for other potential needs, and I have yet to see a business or building with "no canes" signs posted.
The good old Irish blackthorn walking stick (shillelagh) is a very stylish gentlemens' accessory with a long history as a close quarters weapon. I have read that they were prohibited several times over the years because of the reputation developed by their use during "the troubles".
A roll of nickels can easily be carried in your pocket. When gripped in the fist this adds considerable impact to a punch. Handy for parking meters, too, thus a ready explanation for having them. Haven't heard of any "carrying concealed money" laws.
The better quality ballpoint pens (brass or steel construction) can be put to devastating use at close quarters, but no one will ever accuse you of carrying a weapon. I've been given several gift sets over the years.
Anything that the manufacturer describes or advertises as a weapon is likely to be interpreted as a weapon. There are any number of other products that can perform as well or better than the expanding batons with little possibility of such an interpretation holding up in court.
Naturally here in the people’s republic of NY collapsible batons or any other normal club device is illegal.
During the times when we had some problem dogs around that would attach peaceful leashed animals I carried a nice multi cell flashlight in a belt holster. Rest assured it will definitely get a dog’s attention as well as an ASP will. (Other predators also if needed) Of course I also had a CCW that was not visible.
During the times when we had some problem dogs around that would attach peaceful leashed animals I carried a nice multi cell flashlight in a belt holster. Rest assured it will definitely get a dog’s attention as well as an ASP will. (Other predators also if needed) Of course I also had a CCW that was not visible.
MOONDAWG
US Veteran
Ditto my "walking stick" is a 5' section of one inch doweling.
It doesn't draw weird looks from the timid folks, and works well at keeping 4 legged critters at bay.
