Collapsible Baton...

[timn8er]

While reading the Walking The Dog thread, I started thinking maybe a collapsible baton might be a good thing to have. I started looking around, but quickly got confused. Apparently some of them you have to bang the tip on the ground to get them to collapse? I would appreciate some guidance & recommendations from the knowledgeable people here. Thanks for your help!

 

[HalfStack]

At least look up the law on it. I think here we're not allowed to have it in our possession.

 

[Kanewpadle]

While reading the Walking The Dog thread, I started thinking maybe a collapsible baton might be a good thing to have. I started looking around, but quickly got confused. Apparently some of them you have to bang the tip on the ground to get them to collapse? I would appreciate some guidance & recommendations from the knowledgeable people here. Thanks for your help![/QUOT

I have one of these. Batons

Works well. Used it once and I was glad I had it. They may or not be legal to own where you live.

Frankly I'm not concerned about the legalities. I put it in my front pocket with my shirt covering the handle. And I stated before, I would rather tell a cop why I hit the dog with my stick instead of why I shot the dog.

For what it's worth, a baton is very effective.

 

[snubbyfan]

Back in my dog walking days, I went to the hardware store (they had them back then) and got my self a large hardwood dowel rod to use as a walking stick and a "just in case."

 

[Faulkner]

I was LEO certified to carry an ASP collapsible baton a dozen years ago and still carry one. Yes, you do have to give a good tap on the end on a hard surface to get them to collapse. The good ones anyway. You certainly don't want it in inadvertently collapsing at an inopportune moment when you are trying to use it.

 

[DR505]

I was LEO certified to carry an ASP collapsible baton a dozen years ago and still carry one. Yes, you do have to give a good tap on the end on a hard surface to get them to collapse. The good ones anyway. You certainly don't want it in inadvertently collapsing at an inopportune moment when you are trying to use it.

I too have trained with and carry an ASP. I've got a 16" and a 21" for work. They are handy for recalcitrant folks and poking things you don't want to touch, like during a search warrant at a meth house.

 

[timn8er]

I hadn't even thought they might be illegal. I guess I'll just stick with my ash cane. Its pretty sturdy, & I know I wouldn't want to be wacked on the head with it.

 

[sophie]

We have 2 guys that walk about a 3 mile area out where I live and they both carry golf putters.

 

[rwsmith]

The law is weird.....

Can't carry a pipe. How about a sturdy walking cane? Hickory?

 

[Straightshooter2]

From what I've been able to find online, the states which prohibit collapsible batons are the usual suspects plus a few other states. This is the list I could find of states which prohibit batons but it could have changed.

California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Kansas, Massachusetts, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Nevada, New York State, Tennessee, Texas, Washington DC, Washington State, Wisconsin

I haven't been able to find anything on Georgia but since our license is a Weapons Carry License which pretty much covers most any offensive or defensive weapon, I would expect them to be legal here. I keep an ASP in the globe box of the car.

timn8er, I didn't find anything on Oklahoma but I would still check your state and local laws.

CW

 

[Alpo]

BudK Self Defense Impact Baton

This is what I've got. I'd heard about these "spring coshes" before, and when it arrived, I truly was not real impressed.

Then I took it out in the yard and starting with it closed, flicked my wrist and swung, and was cutting inch and a half thick branches from an oak tree. Not "tearing the branch loose from the trunk" - breaking the branch in two. Now I was impressed.

Florida "Concealed Weapons Permit" makes a lot of stuff legal.

This one has a metal tip - not plastic like Bud's. Might be better. Costs more.
http://www.selfdefenseproducts.com/Expandable-Spring-Baton-p-16165.html

 

[Fishslayer]

At least look up the law on it. I think here we're not allowed to have it in our possession.

^^^ This. Always pays to know the laws. I was told that in Kalifornistan a pistol in yer pocket with no permit = misdemeanor and weapons like knives & such can be a felony. 99% certain a baton is illegal in my area.

 

[2ndAmendmentNut]

Maglight is the brand that comes to mind, but I am sure there are other flashlights that use the large "D" batteries. Anyways those metal bodied flashlights can make one heck of a club should you need it. No permit necessary and doesn't look one bit suspicious.

 

[Malpasowildlifer]

Make sure expandable batons are legal in your area. If so, the best one is the Bonowi. It is an expandable baton with a Camlock design; you press a button at the end of the grip to collapse it.

Batons

It is completely balanced, unlike most others with a majority of the weight in the handle.

I think only one company imports them to the US; in Utah I think. That is where I got mine.

I'd carry it on duty but since my agency is almost too dumb to function, I can't, as policy says we can only carry expandable batons made in the US.

 

[safearm]

Look at these Monadnock batons:
Batons
They deploy like every other collapsible baton, but you can close them by pushing a button at the base; no need to strike the tip against the ground.
This was the last type of baton I carried before I retired.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

T ball bat

 

[brick]

Try a fixed length car antenna.

 

[LoboGunLeather]

I've known a lot of truckers over the years who carried "tire thumpers", used to verify tire inflation but also wicked for self-defense.

A baseball bat behind the car seat or on the floor can come in handy. Keep your old baseball glove and a baseball with the bat to avoid any possible inference that it is carried as a weapon.

A tire iron left on the floor of the truck is easily explainable, but potentially very useful in an ugly situation.

Multiple knee surgeries over the years have left me with periodic need of a cane or walking stick, so I keep one in the truck. The old fashioned wooden canes (ash, oak, or other hardwoods) are excellent for other potential needs, and I have yet to see a business or building with "no canes" signs posted.

The good old Irish blackthorn walking stick (shillelagh) is a very stylish gentlemens' accessory with a long history as a close quarters weapon. I have read that they were prohibited several times over the years because of the reputation developed by their use during "the troubles".

A roll of nickels can easily be carried in your pocket. When gripped in the fist this adds considerable impact to a punch. Handy for parking meters, too, thus a ready explanation for having them. Haven't heard of any "carrying concealed money" laws.

The better quality ballpoint pens (brass or steel construction) can be put to devastating use at close quarters, but no one will ever accuse you of carrying a weapon. I've been given several gift sets over the years.

Anything that the manufacturer describes or advertises as a weapon is likely to be interpreted as a weapon. There are any number of other products that can perform as well or better than the expanding batons with little possibility of such an interpretation holding up in court.

 

[NYlakesider]

Naturally here in the people’s republic of NY collapsible batons or any other normal club device is illegal.

During the times when we had some problem dogs around that would attach peaceful leashed animals I carried a nice multi cell flashlight in a belt holster. Rest assured it will definitely get a dog’s attention as well as an ASP will. (Other predators also if needed) Of course I also had a CCW that was not visible.

 

[MOONDAWG]

Back in my dog walking days, I went to the hardware store (they had them back then) and got my self a large hardwood dowel rod to use as a walking stick and a "just in case."

Ditto my "walking stick" is a 5' section of one inch doweling.

It doesn't draw weird looks from the timid folks, and works well at keeping 4 legged critters at bay.

 

[MrTrolleyguy]

Did you know that there is a S&W expanding baton?

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

I've known a lot of truckers over the years who carried "tire thumpers", used to verify tire inflation but also wicked for self-defense.

A baseball bat behind the car seat or on the floor can come in handy. Keep your old baseball glove and a baseball with the bat to avoid any possible inference that it is carried as a weapon.

A tire iron left on the floor of the truck is easily explainable, but potentially very useful in an ugly situation.

Multiple knee surgeries over the years have left me with periodic need of a cane or walking stick, so I keep one in the truck. The old fashioned wooden canes (ash, oak, or other hardwoods) are excellent for other potential needs, and I have yet to see a business or building with "no canes" signs posted.

The good old Irish blackthorn walking stick (shillelagh) is a very stylish gentlemens' accessory with a long history as a close quarters weapon. I have read that they were prohibited several times over the years because of the reputation developed by their use during "the troubles".

A roll of nickels can easily be carried in your pocket. When gripped in the fist this adds considerable impact to a punch. Handy for parking meters, too, thus a ready explanation for having them. Haven't heard of any "carrying concealed money" laws.

The better quality ballpoint pens (brass or steel construction) can be put to devastating use at close quarters, but no one will ever accuse you of carrying a weapon. I've been given several gift sets over the years.

Anything that the manufacturer describes or advertises as a weapon is likely to be interpreted as a weapon. There are any number of other products that can perform as well or better than the expanding batons with little possibility of such an interpretation holding up in court.

Don't forget cheese.

 

[rwsmith]

There was a guy

We have 2 guys that walk about a 3 mile area out where I live and they both carry golf putters.

When I delivered papers in the early morning there was an old guy that walked around with a putter who had quite a reputation. If he saw ANYBODY, at any distance, he would rear back into a striking stance, shaking the club. A friend of mine said, "I thought he was scratching his back or something, then I saw he was about to beat the **** out of me. One time I came down the middle of the street on my bicycle with a load of papers and as i rolled around the corner he went into his 'defense posture'. I really wanted to beat the dog mess out of him myself right then. I think he could have been charged with threatening people.