COLLECTING PD GUNS

SPEEDGUNNER said:
Found this list, looks like a collection of State Police guns would be quite a bit of Tupperware. Wonder if they are all marked?

Alabama Glock 22
Alaska Glock 22
Arizona Sig P229 .40
Arkansas Glock 22
California S&W 4006TSW
Colorado S&W M&P .40
Connecticut Sig P226 .40
Delaware Sig P229 .357Sig
Florida Beretta 96D
Georgia Glock 37
Hawaii S&W 5906
Idaho Glock 22
Illinois Glock 22
Indiana Glock 22
Iowa S&W 4046
Kansas Glock 21
Kentucky Glock 34
Lousiana Sig P229 .40
Maine HK USP .45
Maryland Beretta Px4 .40
Massachusetts Sig P226 .40
Michigan Sig P226 .40
Minnesota Glock 22
Mississippi Glock 22
Missouri Glock 22
Montana Sig P229 .357Sig
Nebraska Glock 22
New Hampshire S&W M&P .45
Nevada Sig P229R .40
New Jersey Sig 228
New Mexico S&W M&P .357
New York Glock 37
North Carolina SIG P226 .40
North Dakota S&W 4506
Ohio Sig P226 .40
Oklahoma Sig P226R .357Sig
Oregon Glock 22
Pennsylvania Glock 37
Rhode Island Sig P226DAK .357Sig
South Carolina Glock 37
South Dakota SIG P229 .40
Tennessee Glock 31
Texas Sig P226 .357Sig
Utah Beretta Cougar .40
Vermont Sig P229 .40
Virginia Sig P229R .357
Washington Beretta 92F
West Virginia S&W 4566TSW
Wisconsin Ruger P89
Wyoming Glock 22

Not sure of accuracy, this list may be dated. I don't think there is a State Police in Hawaii.

I need to expand the question to ask: How hard would it be to collect A PD marked gun from each state police or highway patrol, regardless of vintage? Gotta be a lot of surplus stuff floating around out there. I read Maryland replaced Beretta 92's with CX4 Storm, I know PA replaced Beretta 96's with the new .45GAP Glock. Before that PA had S&W 66's. The stuff has to be out there.
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City of Honululu (sic) used to function as a de facto state police agency in Hawaii years ago.
Hawaii has a state sheriff's office. The Hawaii Sheriff serves as the state police there.
 
Plumbata said:
For example, my latest purchase is a 4043 from the TABC, the dust cover has the number "14537" rollmarked in it. (why they just do not use the original serial# is beyond me)
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Many years ago IL had a law that required all pieces of state equipment valued over $100 to be marked with a unique inventory number. Nothing in law mentioned serial numbers. So everything over $100 value either had an inventory number engraved, stamped, or a metallic label. That meant even squad cars. Didn't matter that cars had VINs that would tell a person a lot about the car, still had to have a unique inventory number. Without the inventory number it was a write up by the state auditors. Since serial numbers varied in the number of digits that didn't fit in the state tracking system. Eventually someone figured out the silliness of the law so an exclusion was passed permitting serial numbers instead of inventory numbers if and only if the serial number was actually unique.
 
That would be an undertaking for more than one generation most likely.

Agency Issue (Very Long) - Real Police: Law Enforcement,Police Officer,Criminal Justice,Background Checks website...

This isn't the tip of the iceberg.

Doesn't even mention the GA State Patrol 4006TSW. Have one unissued and marked as such. It would be quite an undertaking for the entire forum to come up with a collection including all the LEO issued firearms. Have a 15-3 has Orange Cty. engraved on the sideplate. These additions would keep popping up for years.
 
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Friend of mine had a brother who had an Rem 870 with "NYS Police" on the barrel. Told me he stole the gun 30 years ago from a trooper's car while the trooper was sleeping! I did not approve, but I have seen cops in one horse towns sleeping while manning a speedtrap.
 
I don't know about all the states, nor do I know how the Kentucky State Police ( KSP ) are currently marking their issue guns, but I know that at least some of thier older issue guns were marked KSP. I bought a Smith and Wesson .45 auto ( don't remember model number ) from a sale that they had after they switched to a new gun. They sold all the ones in the armory they had been unissued and they were all marked with the KY state seal and KSP.

I'd think that a lot of states used to mark their older guns, getting one from every state would be quite a collection.
 
Hawaii State Police

SPEEDGUNNER said:
Found this list, looks like a collection of State Police guns would be quite a bit of Tupperware. Wonder if they are all marked?

Alabama Glock 22
Alaska Glock 22
Arizona Sig P229 .40
Arkansas Glock 22
California S&W 4006TSW
Colorado S&W M&P .40
Connecticut Sig P226 .40
Delaware Sig P229 .357Sig
Florida Beretta 96D
Georgia Glock 37
Hawaii S&W 5906
Idaho Glock 22
Illinois Glock 22
Indiana Glock 22
Iowa S&W 4046
Kansas Glock 21
Kentucky Glock 34
Lousiana Sig P229 .40
Maine HK USP .45
Maryland Beretta Px4 .40
Massachusetts Sig P226 .40
Michigan Sig P226 .40
Minnesota Glock 22
Mississippi Glock 22
Missouri Glock 22
Montana Sig P229 .357Sig
Nebraska Glock 22
New Hampshire S&W M&P .45
Nevada Sig P229R .40
New Jersey Sig 228
New Mexico S&W M&P .357
New York Glock 37
North Carolina SIG P226 .40
North Dakota S&W 4506
Ohio Sig P226 .40
Oklahoma Sig P226R .357Sig
Oregon Glock 22
Pennsylvania Glock 37
Rhode Island Sig P226DAK .357Sig
South Carolina Glock 37
South Dakota SIG P229 .40
Tennessee Glock 31
Texas Sig P226 .357Sig
Utah Beretta Cougar .40
Vermont Sig P229 .40
Virginia Sig P229R .357
Washington Beretta 92F
West Virginia S&W 4566TSW
Wisconsin Ruger P89
Wyoming Glock 22

Not sure of accuracy, this list may be dated. I don't think there is a State Police in Hawaii.

I need to expand the question to ask: How hard would it be to collect A PD marked gun from each state police or highway patrol, regardless of vintage? Gotta be a lot of surplus stuff floating around out there. I read Maryland replaced Beretta 92's with CX4 Storm, I know PA replaced Beretta 96's with the new .45GAP Glock. Before that PA had S&W 66's. The stuff has to be out there.
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Your are correct there is not state police in Hawaii at least like most other states have. There is the Hawaii Sheriff's which are for the entire state. They are pretty limited though to state properties (Roal Palace), courts, and the airports. They do some of the traffic enforcement on certain state property highway area's. Most of the jurisdictional is done on an island to island basis. The Police departments are usually examples: Hawaii County PD, Maui County PD, Kaui County PD, or Honolulu Police Department (City & County). As for a state gun would have to be the Hawaii Sheriffs which I believe carry the Smith & Wesson 5906 9mm on loan from Honolulu Police Department however I cannot 100% confirm that information. They still carry them and upon the end of the firearms service life are returned and destroyed. Officers cannot purchase their issued firearms. They are not stamped with any identification markings other than a factory serial number to my knowledge. Officers can purchase off duty carry weapons from an approved listing at their own expense however.
 
Speedgunner,

PA State Police did not issue the S&W Mod 66. They were Ruger Security Six revolvers (no markings) which were replaced with the Beretta Model 96D which had an NP3 finish and a PSP patch engraved on the frame. They were replaced with the Beretta Brigadier 96D with a patch laser etched on the frame. The current issued pistol is the Glock 37 with no markings.
 
17+ years ago I saw a Nevada State Police marked revolver (.357 mag, stainless or nickle plated,& wood grips) that had been picked up at a swap meet (Rutledge Mo.). I don't remember the make of it but do remember the guy showing it off at a friends folks place. Rutledge used have a colorful reputation, so nobody really looked all that close. Probobly the only reason I remember it. I think a collection like you are talking about would be great.
 
I would include revolvers, rifles, shotguns, semi-autos as long as it was marked with the state of origin. I posted this in the semi-auto forum because I figured the majority of the guns on the market would be semi-autos. Of course, I would include even the older Broderick Crawford vintage highway patrol weapons as my guess would be a lot of states don't mark their stuff anymore. Limiting it to the 50 states would necessitate collecting 50 guns, if you included cities, counties, local jurisdictions, etc. it would be cost prohibitive. As it is, just figure 50 states X $300 per gun (conservatively) and you are talking about a $15,000 undertaking to say the least. I might need to rethink this!!

Thanks for all the comments.

P.S. I am looking for a PA State Police marked Beretta 96D with the Robar NP3 finish. If anyone knows of one or has one they would like to part with I would appreciate a heads up.
 
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I have collected most of the states, both state police, sheriffs dept, and local PD's. It is a daunting task but the history, and finding them is half the fun.

NO JUSTICE NO PEACE
 
SPEEDGUNNER: As an update to your list Mi Sig 226R DAK 40 SW. Also I believe you are correct in regards to SW 66 never being issued to Pa State police but I believe they were issued SW 19 in the 70's. I also have a 75 anniversary commemorative .
 
The list you have Speedgunner i have seen before. Its out dated and and not accurate. It says the Kentucky State Police carry a Glock 34 and it’s a Glock 35 they carry. Same gun just a 34 is 9mm and a 35 is .40. All of the KSP side arms and backups have always been marked with an engraved or etched state agency seal and all of the long guns will have at least a property number. I have not seen a long gun with a seal on it. They have been marking them at least since they had 4 inch 66’s. Other then the seal on them they will also have KSP in the serial numbers on their glocks. Most agencies will have the guns marked and a lot now have a seal on it because most states are proud of their State Police, State Patrol, Highway Patrol’s so they mark them. And yes all those guys are Troopers but they are not all the same. That’s another one of my pet peeves is when someone get those mixed up.
 
spearcrow the KSP never issued the 4566T your talking about. They ordered about 1400 of them after they switched from the 1076, 10mm and they had a lot of problems with the 4566 after they bought them and never issued them. So they went on to buy Glock model 35's and are the only major angecy in the US to be issued that gun for a standard issued side arm.
 
I would hope New Jersey didn't destroy the H&K P7 squeeze cockers. I think they, the Navajo Tribal Police and the Capitol Police issued that pistol for a while. What a good shooting piece that was. Not easy to work on or so I was told. Very Very expensive, but O' so nice I would love to have one in good shape I would even take a PSP (Euro edition) if it was pristine. the bluing on some H&K P models would get a slightly purple cast to the steel. I was told that it was due to hardness of the steel. Any info would be appreciated. What a shooter, sat low in the hand, solid barrel, just real nice...Any other LE agencies that used them I would like to know about them....
 
The IL Secretary of State Police Tactical Squad was issued the P7 for a time. I don't know what happen to them when they quit issuing them. There weren't that many guys who had them. When they got rid of a bunch of their guns and went to Glocks I got one of their S&W 649s but the P7 wasn't on the list of what was available. I know the guys on the team weren't all offerred the chance to buy them because a buddy who had one still moans today that he didn't get his.
You're right. They are a great gun.
 
Ok highway patrol is issued sig P226 in .357 sig but they can use whatever they want if they can qualify with it. I'm kicking myself for not buying the 4506 that was for sale on my state forum that was marked TCSO for Tulsa County sheriffs office and had the badge on the slide
 
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How can I find out when and where they sell/auction off there guns, from any municipality, state, county or city?even confiscated ones?
 
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