2152hq, thank you for your reply. That is exactly the info that I am looking for. I am contemplating having a "road hard, put away wet" 1911 restored for 20's/30's Texas Ranger LE look. I would never do it on a collectible version in good condition. Mr. Moeller is within driving distance so perhaps I will call and see if I can make an appointment to both visit with him and take a 45 to him. Again ,thanks for your reply. All my best, Joe.