Colt 1st Gen. SAA help

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I've got a Colt SAA from 1887 according to the serial number 121xxx. The gun has been rebarelled in 44 Special and has a new cylinder that appears to be from a 2nd generation gun, the grips are custom and are silver. The frame is in beautiful condition, blueing in beautiful and the case colors are still present, the screws are perfect.
If anyone can look at the photos and provide any info or ideas on value it would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance
 

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I can't get your pictures to open up but, based on what you say, it is a parts gun. The 44 spl cartridge didn't come out until 1907 or so. The trigger guard should be VP marked if it is proofed for smokeless powder and it very likely (almost surely) isn't. Therefore the frame would be suspect as to strength. Sorry, but as described it would be worth under $1000 (maybe more for parts). If you have the original grips, maybe a little more.
 
Your Colt has been completely re-worked. The Rampant Colt on the frame should not be on a Colt with that serial number, and a circled Rampant Colt was introduced before the non-circled Rampant Colt. The address should be a 3-line address. Value would be only as a 'shooter', i.e., $700-$900. Keep in mind, with a BP frame a lot of buyers wouldn't want it because .44 Special is a smokeless cartridge.
 
Colt (like other manufacturers of that period) did not like to make guns chambered for other makers' cartridges. The .44 Special was a S&W development based upon their earlier .44 Russian cartridge. For many years the only way to get a Colt revolver chambered for such cartridges was by special order, usually involving a significant wait.

As recently as the 1970's the .44 Special was available only from the Colt Custom Shop. As others have pointed out, your Colt is built on a black powder frame and is not generally considered safe for use with smokeless ammunition.

Parts gun, probably less than $1000 market value. Only alternative would be a complete renovation, for which you will need to have deep pockets to cover parts and skilled labor. Even then you will have a piece that is far from original condition, thus worth far less than an original in any reasonable condition.
 
I know as little about a SAA as anyone, but I always thought the part that failed on the black powder SAAs was the cylinder, not the frame. Thus the new cylinder, made for smokeless should be OK.
 
I agree as a shooter in it;s current form or as a donor gun as a restoration project, either way the offers thrown your
way would probably be somewhere under the 1K mark.

With a moden 44spl cyl in place and the mechanics & specs up to par,,it'd be fine for mild 44spl loads.

Someone polished, re-roll marked the frame w/ in accurate markings and then re-case color hardened it. The hammer looks to be the correct style for the era. The trigger guard matches and has been polished and reblued. I suspect the same of the backstrap. Trigger may be original. looks like the thin style.
So there's a decent starting point for a restoration, but what is there will need another complete pro-polishing to factory specs and re-marking.
Then w/ factory letter in hand to show how it left the Colt Palace,,a replacement cyl and bbl of original spec and probably an ejector assembly also. All marked, polished and finished in appropriate Colt blue & c/c. Then a set of original or original style perfectly fit grips are needed too. Probably one piece walnut.
A big dollar investment if you are paying someone to do the work.

When you're all done you have a restored Colt 1st generation revolver that everyone stands around and kicks the tires and slams the doors on no matter how well it's been done or by whom.
If the factory letter says the gun shipped to Wyatt Earp, it'll make some difference of course in that you saved a piece of history,,a few will still condemn you for removing any possible vestige of Mr. Earp's DNA from the hammer checkering. Can't win no way.

I'd leave it alone and use it as is,,sell it for what I could get for it not expecting anything more than 1K.

My personal choice would be to use it for a project gun to build a custom SAA on, engraved, maybe plated, ivory etc. The caliber is just fine,,maybe the marking could read 44 Russian and S&W Special. So what if the era isn't correct,,it;s a custom project..
 
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