YeshuaIsa53
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This thread is about corporate decisions. Does anyone have anything to say that is non-political?
COLT to stop manufacturing ARs for the general public
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Their AR-15 is way overpriced IMO. I just isn't THAT superior to any other AR15 and the market is so flooded with them that you can buy a brand new budget AR in 5.56 for under $350.
They can't compete with that, so they're getting out of that market segment. For a company teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, this doesn't seem like a bad move.
If doing so also distances them from being one of the "scary black rifle manufacturers" stigma of the MSM, I can't blame them. It's a win win for them.
Might make the difference between them staying in business or closing the doors for good.
They can't compete with that, so they're getting out of that market segment. For a company teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, this doesn't seem like a bad move.
If doing so also distances them from being one of the "scary black rifle manufacturers" stigma of the MSM, I can't blame them. It's a win win for them.
Might make the difference between them staying in business or closing the doors for good.
Not really. Not much of a Colt fan. I prefer Smith & Wesson or Rock River Arms for AR-15's.
MORSNO
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I don't recall anyone recently saying they were in the market for a new Colt. They no longer have the big military contracts, FN and Sig have those so their days are probably numbered anyway.
GB
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Not the first time they have done this. I think they did the same thing in 93-94. They only make 5 basic models of firearms. The AR, the Single action and two revolvers along with the 1911. The AR (govt. Contracts) keep them afloat. I would like to keep this non-political but it is what it is.
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Links to a subject like this are always helpful. Click here, here, or here. So readers will know what this is about.
I note that the media is using this as an opportunity to once again throw out the catchphrases and buzzwords. Like "high powered", "assault rifle", and "military style". I note, too, that in some of the reports, they start off with video images of Walmart!?! Which is totally irrelevant to anything Colt does or doesn't do.
Frankly, the AR market is full to the brim and running over. Colt exiting the market is pretty much meaningless as far as affecting the civilian supply goes. The media will make more of this than we will. Or than we should, let me put it that way.
Note, too, that Colt states that it has enough ARs on hand to satisfy the civilian market, so they'll devote more production time to law enforcement and military contracts. They also state they fully support the Second Amendment.
There'll be people here who'll start ragging on Colt, and talking about poor management and blah blah blah and how Colt is "abandoning" its customer base yada yada yada.
Colt's doing what they need to do to try to stay in business. I hope they make it.
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Well, I got one. I'm sure I paid more for the name but I also have faith in the arm. I think it will still be running when some others aren't.
I have the " others" too and they're fine shooters, but the Colt will be the last to go.
I have the " others" too and they're fine shooters, but the Colt will be the last to go.
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I don't care. Colt is spiraling into history due to corporate decisions. There is nothing that I or anyone else here can do about it.
The last the time Colt did this I sold my Colt AR for double what I paid for it and took a gal I was dating on a vacation to Cancun, but I doubt if their products will go up in value at all after their current announcement.
I recall seeing a spreadsheet a while back comparing the many different AR15 manufacturers. If I recall, Colt used a higher grade of steel for its barrels than most of the others, but I don't know enough about metallurgy to know if it was a significant difference. On the downside I think they used nonstandard sized pins that made their trigger groups incompatible with everyone else.
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Possibly a way of protecting their patents.
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YeshuaIsa53
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I figured most gun enthusiasts would know.
Colt suspends production of AR-15 for civilian market
Colt will stop making AR-15s for civilian sale, says there'''s already plenty on market
Timing is not everything. Sometimes it seems to be and may be, but it is not everything all the time. Most I can say is, ""Why even announce it?" Sitting on the fence is a quote, and everyone can make what they want out of it. Good corporate decision to me, but bad timing.
Colt suspends production of AR-15 for civilian market
Colt will stop making AR-15s for civilian sale, says there'''s already plenty on market
Timing is not everything. Sometimes it seems to be and may be, but it is not everything all the time. Most I can say is, ""Why even announce it?" Sitting on the fence is a quote, and everyone can make what they want out of it. Good corporate decision to me, but bad timing.
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YeshuaIsa53
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I also think so many people are throwing together their own now, in so many calibers, I'll keep my Colts. Colt was the standard, and still is as far as I'm concerned.
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That's exactly right as it always has been. Colt remains the standard. Even if a Colt AR costs a little more, it retains a high resale value in comparison with the copies and the Colt will likely be easier to sell or trade.
Cui bono? Follow the dollar.
If they close the factory doors while a civilian or military demand exists, okay, but that is not the situation.
Enjoyed reading the comments in this thread and pleased to see the focus on the company survival aspect. Far too many individuals misinterpreting this decision.
You manufacture a product to two different markets.
One market has low demand due to product saturation.
One market has high demand due to inability of companies to satisfy demand.
If you want to increase your profits, the focus of your efforts should be obvious.
Simple.
The patent point by Watchdog is interesting... and as stated by Watchdog, I too hope they make it.
If they close the factory doors while a civilian or military demand exists, okay, but that is not the situation.
Enjoyed reading the comments in this thread and pleased to see the focus on the company survival aspect. Far too many individuals misinterpreting this decision.
You manufacture a product to two different markets.
One market has low demand due to product saturation.
One market has high demand due to inability of companies to satisfy demand.
If you want to increase your profits, the focus of your efforts should be obvious.
Simple.
The patent point by Watchdog is interesting... and as stated by Watchdog, I too hope they make it.
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I think they already have...
Ackley1952
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These guns have been produced since the 50's maybe the buying public is sending Colt a message and management is hearing the message .
For most AR-15 buyers, an AR is an AR, the brand is not that important. Colt's tend to run at least $200 more than most other maker's AR-15's and they are not that special. The same can be said of their 1911's. I think Colt priced themselves out of the market and see this as a good time, both economically and politically, to leave the civilian market and focus on military/government contracts. They did the same thing back in the 1990's when the assault weapons ban was enacted. Colt ended up losing those military/government contracts that they depended upon and ended up in bankruptcy court. Funny how history has a way of repeating its mistakes, I suspect we are seeing the stage set for yet another Colt bankruptcy.
Happy that I own one. Working on reevaluating the worth of my pre first ban (I guess that'll be a thing soon) Colt AR15 Sporter II Carbine . . .
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