Considering Tupperware.....G19?
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Started with a Glock 17, then went to a Glock 19, and now with a Glock 26. Of the three I prefer the Glock 26 for CCW.
4506517
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I love all my G-locks!!!!! (Sorry) I own a 19, 23C, and a 31. The 19 is an older model 1st or 2nd gen. My very first "real" gun I purchased on my own. What a great little pistol! My father owns a 36 and I really like it too. They're just good all around pistols in my opinion.
Malysh
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I have owned a Glock since they first were imported in the US. I think it was late 1986 or early 1987 but frankly, I don't remember exactly. I bought the only model they made then, a Mod 17. I also had a Mod 22. Presently, I have a Mod 19 and a Mod 36 in 45acp.
The toughness, reliability, and combat accuracy of the Glock has it's own beauty only if you agree with the credo that form follows function
That gives them a level of respect they have definitely earned.
Glocks remind me of AK rifles in that they are difficult to render inoperable.
What's the most important aspect of a self defense firearm - dependability and toughness.
The toughness, reliability, and combat accuracy of the Glock has it's own beauty only if you agree with the credo that form follows function
That gives them a level of respect they have definitely earned. Glocks remind me of AK rifles in that they are difficult to render inoperable.
What's the most important aspect of a self defense firearm - dependability and toughness.
HAWKEYE10
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I have had four Glocks and sold them all. Each time I swear I will never buy another and I mean it. DonS&W-Keeper
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I really like my 19.I think everbody should have one.
I use the G19 for carry quite frequently. It does everything well. It's not the best looking, but makes up for that by the way it performs. Thousands of trouble free rounds. Great value for the $. Reliable, concealable, 15+1, Super durable finish, still looks great after years of use/carry. The G19 really fits the bill for many of these reasons. I love older S&Ws, but the G19 has its place.
Jimmyj I did the same as you. The 26 is a breeze to carry.
The 17 with PMC Bronze ammo is one of the most fun and accurate combo I have found. The 19 is no slouch either. If you go with the 19 you will have made a great choice.
Anyone have any opinions (from using them) on the Glock 19? Yes, I know I signed in on the S&W forum.... There is a vast amount of knowledge and experience here, and I'd like to tap into a little of it. Any points of interest and why you like or dislike 1st gen thru 4th gen. would be helpful. Thanks all.....Sprefix
Sir, I bought a new Gen 4 Glock 19 a while back. I'm trying to like it. I want to like it, because there's a lot about it to like: low cost, low recoil, good reliability, good durability, decent sights, same trigger pull every time, light weight, parts and accessories widely available, etc. etc.
I actually like the Glock's no-frills, pure utilitarianism. I got the Gen 4 because the earlier versions had a little too long a trigger reach for me, and the Gen 4 is better in this regard. Also, IMHO anyone who deems himself a "gun guy" today really should be familiar with Glocks.
Trouble is, I can't shoot the bloomin' thing worth a naughty word. My groups with it are invariably large, vertically strung, and out to the left, even at 7 yards. This bothers me greatly. I'm not actually a bad shot -- I've been known to occasionally pull out a 2-inch offhand group at 25 yards with other handguns -- so it's not a lack of skill.
I think one problem is the Glock's lousy trigger. It stacks noticeably, much like an older Colt DA revolver. It gets heavier the closer it gets to release, causing the muzzle to twitch to the side when the sear finally releases. Whether this is correctable via trigger work or aftermarket kits I don't know -- I haven't tried either yet.
A second problem is, or at least seems to be, finger length. Or lack thereof. As noted, I have short fingers. Two buddies of mine with longer fingers did not run into the "grouping left" problem when they shot the gun. So while the Gen 4 has a shorter trigger reach than a Gen 3, it's not enough shorter for my hands. Being as longer aftermarket fingers are not readily available, there's not much I can do on this front.
As previously noted, there's a lot to like about the gun, and I want to like it, but it certainly seems like it just doesn't suit me.
Anyway, that's been my experience so far. YMMV.
Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.
Ron H.
Fessin' up.........
Truth is I've owned 14 Glocks. Never had a 9MM version or .357 Sig(obviously not a .380 either). My G20 10MM was an outstanding gun for knocking around. The unsupported chamber finally let my great friend beg it out of me and he is aware of the unsupported chamber. This is his second 10MM Glock. Mine was hard-chromed by APW in FL. Had a 6" drop in barrel. Many other options also. The trigger issues are horrific for me, so I put in the 3.5lb dis-connector and polished the internals. I also used the titanium lightning strike firing pin block. The triggers can be made so nice, that double-tapping is almost a dream--even with a 10MM!! I am just having crazy thoughts on a 19 for all the best stated reasons everyone has listed earlier in this thread. I want more capacity than my J-frame affords even for the size and weight sacrifice. Still, gotta work out some financial and work woes before I decide if it is time to shoot, shake, cut, or climb.
Truth is I've owned 14 Glocks. Never had a 9MM version or .357 Sig(obviously not a .380 either). My G20 10MM was an outstanding gun for knocking around. The unsupported chamber finally let my great friend beg it out of me and he is aware of the unsupported chamber. This is his second 10MM Glock. Mine was hard-chromed by APW in FL. Had a 6" drop in barrel. Many other options also. The trigger issues are horrific for me, so I put in the 3.5lb dis-connector and polished the internals. I also used the titanium lightning strike firing pin block. The triggers can be made so nice, that double-tapping is almost a dream--even with a 10MM!! I am just having crazy thoughts on a 19 for all the best stated reasons everyone has listed earlier in this thread. I want more capacity than my J-frame affords even for the size and weight sacrifice. Still, gotta work out some financial and work woes before I decide if it is time to shoot, shake, cut, or climb.
Bullzaye
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I bought my Glock 19 back in 1988 or 1989, and it's still my favorite. As noted...if it fits well in your hand, it's a great little pistol. If I could only have one centerfire pistol, it would likely be a G19.
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Dragon88
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I own a G19 gen 3.5 and would never part with it. If I had to grab one gun and as much ammo as I could carry in a bad situation, it would probably be the G19. It is not pretty, it will not give you any thrills at the range, and it's not something you and your friends will drool over while browsing the gun safe. It is, however, a consistent, utterly reliable self defense firearm. If you are in need of a gun like that, the G19 is a good one to consider.
I installed night sights and played with a lighter trigger for a while. I have since gone back to the stock trigger. I can shoot just as well with it, and feel it is a better choice for a striker fired SD gun with no manual safety.
I installed night sights and played with a lighter trigger for a while. I have since gone back to the stock trigger. I can shoot just as well with it, and feel it is a better choice for a striker fired SD gun with no manual safety.
I've been acquainted with them since they came out, trained quite a few women on them, and brought my daughter up on one. For those who like them they're very good. Personally I don't shoot any Glock well at all--can't abide the trigger.
Alternatively I shoot the Sigma 9mm quite well, not to mention the far superior grip. It's a little fussy about my reloads but very happy with factory ammo. I'm not prepared to abandon my wheel guns for EDC (yet) but if I did I would opt for the Sigma in a heartbeat. "Perfection" is a little presumptuous; I'll settle for good handling, reliable, and accurate.
Alternatively I shoot the Sigma 9mm quite well, not to mention the far superior grip. It's a little fussy about my reloads but very happy with factory ammo. I'm not prepared to abandon my wheel guns for EDC (yet) but if I did I would opt for the Sigma in a heartbeat. "Perfection" is a little presumptuous; I'll settle for good handling, reliable, and accurate.
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I've had a 19 since 1988. Goes bang, hits what I aim at. Only thing better is a 21 I got in the early 90s that shoots ball ammo like it was a laser and it doesn't care who is shooting it.
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GyMac
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Glock 19 all the way. I don't own one, my interests lie elsewhere, but I've shot a couple and actually talked my son-in-law into buying one.
Badkarma 1
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Glock?!
I have two, an old 17 I call "Otto", and a 19 I call "Bucket". The 19 usually comes out in hot weather due to their excellent ability to shrug off rust. It's a tool plain and simple, and it shoots ok, and it's also it's perfect size wise for CCW.
There are better guns out there though! Dale
I have two, an old 17 I call "Otto", and a 19 I call "Bucket". The 19 usually comes out in hot weather due to their excellent ability to shrug off rust. It's a tool plain and simple, and it shoots ok, and it's also it's perfect size wise for CCW.
There are better guns out there though! Dale
ColbyBruce
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Glock makes a decent product. The Glock 19 is a fine package of size, weight, firepower, and concealability. I am partial to the Gen. II frames without rails and finger grooves.
I have tried several glocks, including the 19. They are OK. Very reliable, but the again, many others are as well. The thing I just cannot get over is the lack of a safety. I don't care how careful you are, sooner or later an inexperienced person will pick up that gun. When you pull the trigger on a revolver, you know something is happening--the cylinder is turning and the hammer is coming back. Likewise with a DA/SA auto--there is a long deliberate pull and the hammer moves. With a striker pistol, you have none of that. The trigger is a fine place for a safety device, but the dumbest place in the world for THE safety on a semi-auto. An NG can kill just a easily as a deliberate shot and a pistol should be designed to minimize that possibility (within reason of course). Safety-less Strikers might be fine for range games, but I just cant buy into the concept for a gun that will likely at some time be lying on a table or dresser.
point taken........thanks
Good point 7Iron....,Safety-less Strikers might be fine for range games, but I just cant buy into the concept for a gun that will likely at some time be lying on a table or dresser.------------The system has wierded me out too. Solution, I don't have kids and they are NEVER at my place. My guns are locked in the safe or on my person. No-one is at my place unless they are invited. Period. Hard to believe, but true.
Good point 7Iron....,Safety-less Strikers might be fine for range games, but I just cant buy into the concept for a gun that will likely at some time be lying on a table or dresser.------------The system has wierded me out too. Solution, I don't have kids and they are NEVER at my place. My guns are locked in the safe or on my person. No-one is at my place unless they are invited. Period. Hard to believe, but true.
