Cookie Cutters

[otis24]

Back in the late 80's, I remember talking to a gentleman about a revolver he was carrying (.38/.357?). I was working at a liquor store, so I'm sure that the conversation had something to do with what I was carrying at the time (nickled Beretta .32, WWII vintage).

Anyway, he had a round that he called a cookie cutter. Don't know if this was just a slang term for hollow points or if there was an actual round called a cookie cutter. Anyone else ever hear of this?

 

[RGPM1A]

Years ago there used to be a bullet that was a completely hollow hollow point bullet that was a copper ring with a gas check on it. It looked like a cookie cutter. When fired into telephone books it would cut perfect confetti. I don't remember who made it though.

 

[yukonb]

If you google Cookie Cutter Ammo you will find all kinds of info on this round including an old thread on this site.

 

[dg101win]

I believe PMC made them.

 

[CTG_COLLECTOR]

I believe it was in the late 80's or early 90's when PMC introduced their tubular bulleted UltraMag .38Spl & .44Spl loadings. It was indeed nicknamed the "cookie cutter". Initial loading in 38Spl consisted of a brass bullet, and PMC latter replaced it with a copper alloy bullet because BATF declaired the brass bullet Armor Piercing. The 44Spl was never loaded with a brass bullet.

Guilford Engineering also produced similar ammo using a steel bullet they named ANSB (Annular Nose Solid Base). These rounds most definately have AP capabilities. These became known to the general public in 1993 in the aftermath of the Branch Dividian fiasco in Waco, TX., as either the FBI, ATF, or both, were using this ANSB ammo in 9mm. Guilford Engineering Assoc. made the ANSB ammo in a few different configurations and calibers including 9mm, 38Spl, 357Mag and 45ACP. This ammo was nicknamed the "Cyclone".

 

[Nemo288]

You mean these: ?

I might be persuaded to part with a box of these.
I don't know how many were made but they are kind
of rare these days. They don't shoot to any common
point of aim.

 

[Mack]

I believe it was in the late 80's or early 90's when PMC introduced their tubular bulleted UltraMag .38Spl & .44Spl loadings. It was indeed nicknamed the "cookie cutter". Initial loading in 38Spl consisted of a brass bullet, and PMC latter replaced it with a copper alloy bullet because BATF declaired the brass bullet Armor Piercing. The 44Spl was never loaded with a brass bullet.

Guilford Engineering also produced similar ammo using a steel bullet they named ANSB (Annular Nose Solid Base). These rounds most definately have AP capabilities. These became known to the general public in 1993 in the aftermath of the Branch Dividian fiasco in Waco, TX., as either the FBI, ATF, or both, were using this ANSB ammo in 9mm. Guilford Engineering Assoc. made the ANSB ammo in a few different configurations and calibers including 9mm, 38Spl, 357Mag and 45ACP. This ammo was nicknamed the "Cyclone".

Very good info here, rumor is that ATF was using this ammo at Waco and that several of their fatalities were caused by this bullet that zips right through a bulletproof vest and leaves a distinctive wound profile.