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Am considering a optic ready gun. Any indications if S&W will produce a optic ready 2.0 version anytime soon?

Also, any comments from those with experience among the Glock 19/17 MOS , XDm optics ready, SIG 320rx and the M&P core? Pros and Cons?

I have a M&P v1,SIG 320c, XD Tactical, and a G30, so am familiar with those platforms- want to get feedback on the optics ready versions.

Thanks in advance
 
The m&p core sits the red dot lower allowing you to cowitness suppressor sights. This is a big advantage over the others. Or buy the m&p 2.0 you want buy the optic you want and send it to primary machine for an rds install. They only charge 200 and do great work. I just bought a m&p 2.0 45acp. For 425 sent it to primary and now for around $625 I have a rds ready 2.0. Just an option. However in rds ready 9mm m&p is the best option. Heres my 3 rds ready M&P'S One has a DR II, one has a deltapoint and the 45 2.0 has a rmr. Ive been down this road . Look how high the rds sits on the mos and the xd. The walther q5 you have to completely remove the rear sight. No thanks.
 

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The M&P Pro and CORE share a trigger which is neither the FS 1.0 or 2.0. Both mine settled down at 4 1/4#, and I prefer it to either of the stock FS triggers, as do many competitors.
Most people who ask your question have never tried the Pro/CORE trigger, and are not aware of the difference.
 
I have not shot a "core" but my Performance center 9L has a stock trigger on it (except for the Apex Ram I added) and after 1500 rounds it's pull is a nice smooth 4 /1/2 pounds. Sweet short reset too. I got mine with the JPoint Sight already installed, It's very quick to see and allows a co witness with your Iron sites. No complaints , with it at all, I can't wait to use it this 'season" in sme competitions.
 
Have the CORE PC 9mm with Vortex Razor red dot. I have Apex springs, reset plunger, striker block and non ported Apex barrel. Trigger is stock hinged, which I don't like but need to stay stock, and pull weight is 2.75 lbs. The only pre travel is the movement of the hinged portion and no over travel. I can't co witness but that is fine with me as it is my fun gun. I have a Shield and M2.0 also both with Apex triggers.

My name is Philip and I am addicted to M&P.

Cheers.
 
The m&p core sits the red dot lower allowing you to cowitness suppressor sights. This is a big advantage over the others.
Others are deeply cut and allow co-witnessing too, like my 2 P320 RX's.

Or buy the m&p 2.0 you want buy the optic you want and send it to primary machine for an rds install.
You need to be a little careful here. The 2.0 FS guns that have the LCI (loaded chamber indicator) on the top of the slide are not millable for an RDS, AFAIK.
 
Am considering a optic ready gun. Any indications if S&W will produce a optic ready 2.0 version anytime soon?
Good question. I think many are waiting on the 2.0 version of the Pro/CORE line. I've not heard any rumors, but it has to be coming soon, you'd think.
Also, any comments from those with experience among the Glock 19/17 MOS , XDm optics ready, SIG 320rx and the M&P core? Pros and Cons?
I sure like the RDS's on my Sig P320 RX, FS and Compact. I'm working on getting a carry option working for the Compact, but they are just range guns for me right now.

I like the RDS so much on those, I wanted to put one on my 2.0 5" FDE M&P. But as I mentioned above, it seems that it is a no-go for milling that slide, since it has an LCI. So I bought a dovetail mount for it from Outer Impact and mounted a Vortex Venom on it. No co-witness ability that way, but it's also just a range gun, so I'll live with that in order to get the accuracy I get with an RDS. If I had younger eyes, it might not matter as much.
 
Correction the loaded chamber indicator can easily be removed and milled . Irregardless I hope you're happy with the p320 rx setup considering it's made solely for their romeo red dot. You have zero other options in term of rds use. Thats what turned me off to the 320rx initially. That being said I have several p227 that I love 1 of which is milled and has a DR II rds on it.
 

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Correction the loaded chamber indicator can easily be removed and milled.
That's great to hear! Do you have any contact info for who is doing that? I guess that would leave an empty slot where the LCI was, forward of the RDS?
Irregardless I hope you're happy with the p320 rx setup considering it's made solely for their romeo red dot. You have zero other options in term of rds use. Thats what turned me off to the 320rx initially. That being said I have several p227 that I love 1 of which is milled and has a DR II rds on it.
Yeah, for sure that is a nice thing about the C.O.R.E. system, you can use pretty much anyone's RDS on them. I'm happy with the Romeo1's, but I do hope someone comes up with some thin adapter plates for them. Always nice to have options.

The Vortex I have on the 2.0 has an auto-brightness function that is nice. The Romeo does not have that feature. So given the choice, I'd probably have all Vortex Venom's.
 
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There are a number of discussions on this if you search “Red Dot Sight Mounting” or similar words.

The information above on the Sig is good advice. The Romeos are one of the least robust sights on the market.

Any factory milling for multiple optics has downsides compared to custom milling for a specific optic. What you are willing to spend and your intended use of the gun would be helpful to know. A target gun does not need the same robust qualities as a fighting gun. Lower cost and easier alternatives, like a CORE, probably work OK for target use and gun games. If something breaks in use, no big deal.

Choices and compromises don’t stop there, and you seem to know that from your original post. Optics run from cheap and almost unserviceable to expensive and very robust. They have different footprints and different heights, thus requiring different height BUIS to run properly with a lower 25% co-witness.

Any time you mill a slide and then add a mounting plate for a certain optic, you raise that optic above the slide. Some plates are better than others at holding the optic. If the plate has fore & aft stops as well as the mounting screws, you get a fairly decent mount, but all the screws will be shorter and less secure than mounting a RDS directly into a custom milled slide. Short screws may break. Long screws not. If only screws are holding the sight on, and they are short, I wouldn’t spend my money there.

As I understand, the CORE suppressor height sights are too low to co-witness with some sights mounted on CORE plates, requiring that you buy taller sights.

The aforementioned problem with the 2.0 Loaded Chamber Indicator (LCI) is another consideration. You don’t want to leave the slot unfilled. Blank inserts may have attachment points far enough to the rear that milling for a long optic is not possible. I don’t know for sure but I would just avoid the whole concept.

I believe S&W will provide a 2.0 CORE at some point. I don’t think it is worth waiting for. I don’t think it is worth custom milling a 2.0 with an LCI.

My M&P 1.0 FS 9 milled for an RMR with Heine Straight Eight raised height night sights and Apex parts runs & shoots wonderfully. I also have more money in it than many people are willing to spend. It is my EDC so it is worth it to me.

I have a Shield set up the same way with the Shield RMS that has a narrower footprint. It also is reliable and shoots great.

I have a G19 custom milled with an RMR 06 and custom parts from Suarez International. Also expensive and great running/shooting gun. I like my M&P better.

I don’t like the Springfields as fighting guns. I am one unimpressed with Sigs. Glocks are OK, but fat gripped and I do have to remember to point them differently than my S&W’s. However, the M&P 2.0 cannot shoot any better than my customized 1.0, so I’m not looking to change anything.
 
FYI, S&W have announced a 5" version in FDE without the LCI so that would be a better candidate for milling. Planning on getting one myself as soon as they are in stock somewhere.
 
FYI, S&W have announced a 5" version in FDE without the LCI so that would be a better candidate for milling. Planning on getting one myself as soon as they are in stock somewhere.

Excellent gun to start with for milling. I don’t care for the “improved” slide lock, but that is easily corrected. I like the FDE grip. Slide, not so much. Black would be better. Obviously aesthetics are personal.
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The 4.26” barrel model with the threaded barrel and elevated sights might be an even better RDS platform for milling and carry, but it does not specifically say “No LCI”. 11770. Model 11771 is the same but the 5”. If S&W made those two models available without the LCI I think it would be better than a CORE.
 
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All- thanks for the insights & feedback.

As for purpose, gun games primarily, so am inclined to find a CORE and go from there.

Now to save some pennies
 
Have the CORE PC 9mm with Vortex Razor red dot. I have Apex springs, reset plunger, striker block and non ported Apex barrel. Trigger is stock hinged, which I don't like but need to stay stock, and pull weight is 2.75 lbs. The only pre travel is the movement of the hinged portion and no over travel. I can't co witness but that is fine with me as it is my fun gun. I have a Shield and M2.0 also both with Apex triggers.

My name is Philip and I am addicted to M&P.

Cheers.

My apex came in at this and I can still get it lower with trigger bar work.
 

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