Cost effectiveness: Building vs. buying an AR15

Do the math. Decide what you want on yours and price it out. If you want the satisfaction of building you own then go for it.

If not then buy the configuration that resembles what you want and go from there.

I wouldn't worry about resale value too much because most well made AR's hold their value. If you build your own but decide to sell it later, that may be a problem for some people because they may decide to stay away from a "do it yourself" gun and buy a new one with factory warranty.
 
I have not heard anything good about Armalite. It is not the same company that originally made the M16. The top tier suppliers are Colt, BCM, Danial Defense (DD), Lewis Machine Tool (LMT), and Spikes. S&W is almost as good.The truth is most of the parts are the same unless you get the one with the plastic lower. Colt is the best known and the Original.

Do not get one with the piston, those are heavier and parts do not interchange.

Spikes raised prices the first time the President was elected and it left a bad taste in many people's mouths.

I paid $1100 for my mid length BCM from The Gun Gallery in Jacksonville, FL.

For Colt you might try GT Distributors, they have locations in GA and TX
 
I recently pondered the very question, when it came to advising a family member, who has no expertise in "gunsmithing", no tools, no proper workspace, etc., and ultimately advised ordering a complete rifle from Wilson Combat. The rifle will be pricey, but as near perfect as can be had, of which I was recently reminded, after sending my Wilson upper back to their shop for a reconfiguration of the handguard to add more rail space, etc. It took a little range time and a few rounds of ammo to re-zero the Leupold 1-4x optic (which did not, as hoped, return to zero, after having been removed, then reinstalled on the rail, but the muzzle brake had been replaced in the course of the work, which may have altered the POA/POI relationship...) So, I was concerned that after making the appropriate scope adjustments, and firing three rounds at 100 yards, at a Shoot & C target, I could only find two bullet holes, about a centimeter apart, through the admittedly cheap range rental spotting scope. It was distressing to think that there was a flyer so far out of the group that I could not find it! Eventually a cease fire was called, and I trudged downrange to inspect the target at close range, whereupon I discovered that what had appeared to be only two bullet holes were actually three, one so nearly next the other as to have been indiscernible through the scope. This is the result of the sort of precision combination of barrel, chamber, crown, trigger group, tight tolerances, etc., that you can buy, "over the counter/out of the box", if you're willing to spend the money, and not willing to go through tedious trial-&-error experimentation with a bunch of ultimately mongrel components, with probably inferior results. I don't doubt that one can find rifles of equal ability from other manufacturers, or achieve their equivalent with a DIY build, but considering that "time is money", and that these custom shops have already worked out the trial-&-error issues, they seem like good bets to me.
 
I bought one of these at a gun show for $1100 out the door a little over a year ago. Mine came with the RRA Dominator 2 Mount. I took it to the local sherrif's range and put 20 shots into a little over a 1" group at 50 yds from a rest. The range officer, who is on their swat team put 10 shots in about 1/2" with it. At least I know what the gun can do. I would buy this again.

Rock River Arms: NEW! RRA LAR-15 Elite Operator2
 
IMHO, if you are just looking for a standard "shooter" AR and can find a good name brand model that has what you want, get it. You will be within $100-$200 of doing it yourself. Also, you will always be tweaking it with a different handguard, etc, over the years. If you are looking for something "special" then you may want to put it together yourself. For example, I am in the process of putting my order list in for my 6.5 Grendel with a 24" SST bull barrel. By putting this one together myself, I'll save ~$500.
 
You can build a cheap AR but in the end, that's what you have. Building a rifle with quality parts can cost as much as a factory rifle, maybe more considering the good deals out there on complete ARs. The cost of building this rifle was within a few bucks of a new S&W M&P15X rifle at the LGS. The parts are of comparable quality.

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I've never "bought" an AR-15. I've personally built at least 50 over the years for myself and others. Most were built on FFL transferred lowers, but in recent years all have been built on 80% lowers that I milled myself. I've also milled the lower for a personal LR-308.
Building your own you can save a few bucks if you're scrupulus about finding best prices, but on the other hand if you don't understand HOW the AR-15 works down to the GROUND, don't build your own.
The AR series rifle is about as modular as any firearm can be, which makes it easy to mix and match and swap parts, but such activities are better served by those who have the experience to understand what they're doing.
With that said, if you BUY a factory FFL lower, and pin it to a store-bought factory upper, chances are you'll end up with a reliable, sweet-shooting gun.
The reason for building from 80% lowers is obvious.
 
With building your own you won't save money, but you have the parts you want and therefore your carbine ;)
 
Whatever you decide to do I would suggest you dont get caught up in paying for a name. There are really no "bad" or "non mil-spec" AR's being sold today that I know of. I have used several name brand parts, DPMS, Bushmaster, etc. and it all works just fine. Where you dont want to skimp is that barrel. I own a borescope and have looked at and shot them all. I will take a Wilson barrel over any of the rest for value,accuracy and consistency any day. Many manufacturers use Wilson barrels.
This will make alot of guys mad but it is stone cold truth...it generally takes buying a Python, getting it home and studying it, then taking it to the range to realize that you just got bit by the "name" snake. Because the price is so high, very few will ever admit, once they spent that money, that at the end of their Python buying episode they sat down with it in their hands, shook their head and said to themselves "wheres the beef??? What's all the hype about???" Sorry to say, it's the same with AR's. Dont waste your time {and money} blindly believing that a Colt manufactured AR is any better than a Rock River or any of the others. I do agree that a Colt might hold a little more value for resale, but that's because everyone hasn't had their own personal private "Python episode" yet...folks that have already been bit wont give you any more for the Colt made AR than they will for a Bushmaster. With a rifle that human hands almost never touch, do you really think that the CNC machines at Colt are any better than the same machines at another manufacturer???? If you flat slap want the best look at Larue Tactical.
 
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If ya like to hit gunshops and shows on weekends , and know what yer looking to build , and with some patience & luck , ya can come across deals on just what ya want.
 
1st AR

Buy your 1st 1, then build the rest, sell the 1st.
You will have more than 1, trust me.
I got lucky, a friend (the coach of the High School rifle team) was building several, we got parts cheap, i really saved a bunch, and got what I wanted. That said, I have changed things on that one.
Good luck
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Whatever you decide to do I would suggest you dont get caught up in paying for a name. There are really no "bad" or "non mil-spec" AR's being sold today that I know of. I have used several name brand parts, DPMS, Bushmaster, etc. and it all works just fine. Where you dont want to skimp is that barrel. I own a borescope and have looked at and shot them all. I will take a Wilson barrel over any of the rest for value,accuracy and consistency any day. Many manufacturers use Wilson barrels.
This will make alot of guys mad but it is stone cold truth...it generally takes buying a Python, getting it home and studying it, then taking it to the range to realize that you just got bit by the "name" snake. Because the price is so high, very few will ever admit, once they spent that money, that at the end of their Python buying episode they sat down with it in their hands, shook their head and said to themselves "wheres the beef??? What's all the hype about???" Sorry to say, it's the same with AR's. Dont waste your time {and money} blindly believing that a Colt manufactured AR is any better than a Rock River or any of the others. I do agree that a Colt might hold a little more value for resale, but that's because everyone hasn't had their own personal private "Python episode" yet...folks that have already been bit wont give you any more for the Colt made AR than they will for a Bushmaster. With a rifle that human hands almost never touch, do you really think that the CNC machines at Colt are any better than the same machines at another manufacturer???? If you flat slap want the best look at Larue Tactical.

With all due respect, I disagree with most of this. Most of all AR carbines are the same. With a few exceptions the parts will interchange. Where the top tier companies shine is the little things like staking screws and the barrel which is one big thing. Bushmaster IMO is not as good as the top tier. I know a lot of SWAT teams use them. If you want an M16 Bolt carrier, and a chrome lined barrel and you want it put together by someone who really knows how to make them rugged, buy the top tier. Bushmaster, DPMS, Rock River and some others are fun shooters. If you don't take a carbine course and shoot several thousand rounds you will probably never know the difference. The OP didn't say why he wanted and AR. If it is a SHTF rifle, then buy the best money can buy, Buy plenty of mags and have lots of ammo on hand.

I have seen a lot of postings where they say that chrome barrels are not as accurate as non chrome lined. This is true, but it misses the point that on a battle rifle you are probably willing to sacrifice a little accuracy for a lot of durability. AR-15s need some care. The Kalashnikov is more rugged than the AR, cheaper to shoot, but not as accurate. They also cost half of what an AR costs.

The truth is you can (or could) buy an AR with a forged aluminum lower for $600. You get no sights, a commercial BCG, and a non chrome barrel. S&W makes a Sport w/o the forward assist and dust cover. It has a non chrome lined barrel. It would make a fine plinker or for shooting coyotes etc.

It sounds (from the first post) that the OP wants a very good AR.. In that case, I recommend a Colt. If you find a BCM instead, that is fine. Larue is probably as good, isn't as well known and (probably) costs more. DD and LMT are as good, aren't that well known and probably cost a bit more although they may be able to be ordered the way you want them.

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Another option is to check out jsesurplus.com. With them you pick out a basic upper and then put whatever BCG, handguard, sights, barrel you want and they assemble it and ship it to you and their prices are decent.

It is possible to build one on the cheap but you have to hunt for deals and be patient.
 
I'm with buy the Colt and build later ones as you'll want more than one.

I did just that and now that I own the tools and buy right I can build an AR just under what I can buy one but get what I want on it first time around.

They're fun to build and fun to shoot. I just hope they don't try and take them away from us some time.
 
Palmetto State Armory has 3 S&W Ar rifles on sale right now. The lowest cost is the optics ready carbine ($799). I would buy that and add the Aimpoint PRO which is also on sale. (Under $1200 total plus shipping and FFL.)

Only thing I don't care for is the rifling twist is 1:9.
 
I bought one of these at a gun show for $1100 out the door a little over a year ago. Mine came with the RRA Dominator 2 Mount. I took it to the local sherrif's range and put 20 shots into a little over a 1" group at 50 yds from a rest. The range officer, who is on their swat team put 10 shots in about 1/2" with it. At least I know what the gun can do. I would buy this again.

Rock River Arms: NEW! RRA LAR-15 Elite Operator2

I like this because it goes to show that you don't have to give up your first born to get a good AR. AR snobbery is really getting old.

The average old AR has been around for a long time and doing just fine. We don't need "boutique" AR's with a bunch of junk hanging off them.:rolleyes:

The RR two stage trigger is hard to beat. That's why I bought one. It will do everything my friends Noveske will do for much less.:eek:
 
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