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Always wonder if you're concerned about being judged for not doing your part, perhaps that's a YOU problem.

Nobody's judging.

I did what's right for me and those around me.

A cancer scare last year and chemo and lots of talks with MDs (in person, not the ones on the internet) and I made what I hope is the best choice for me.

Obviously, time will tell for all of us.
 
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Let's see if I can add my two cents worth when it came to my Covid experience:

First two weeks of March, 2020 I had Covid. I'm pretty sure I got it at one of the very last spring training baseball games (between the NY Mets and Detroit - both eventual Covid hot spots). I also had the wracking dry cough but fortunately my O2 levels stayed up and I never had more than a degree of fever. I also received antibiotics and steroids, plus an inhaler to help keep my lungs open. That was the easiest two weeks of the entire sordid affair.

After the infection subsided, the one thing that stuck around was the cough. I coughed so hard I split the cartilage between the ribs on my right side THREE TIMES in three weeks. I honestly thought I broke my ribs - I couldn't draw in more than 1/3 of a breath, I couldn't cough or sneeze, I couldn't put any weight on my back, side or chest so I was unable to lay down, and any movement greater than super slow-mo caused a pain in my ribs that felt like being stabbed AND hit with a taser both at the same time. I ended up in the ER with the choice of go home and suffer through the recovery or get admitted, sedated and put on a ventilator (which all the docs warned me against). I chose to go home and fight through it with pain killers and a nebulizer to keep my lungs open, which was a continual battle.

I previously had open-heart surgery several years ago that didn't hurt this much - or for as long. It took every second of eight weeks before I could lay down in bed again (I slept upright in a chair packed with pillows) and then another 2 months before I could sleep through the night. Lucky (???) for me I was already on a blood thinner or I'm certain I would have had issues with clots during my convalescence. It took until February, 2021 before I can honestly say all the pain finally subsided. To this day I still have two detached floating ribs on my right side where I can push my fingers into the gap between them.

Also at 10 months post infection my antibody test read zero. My natural antibodies from the original infection didn't even last a full year. I finally was able to get vaccinated shortly after that.

And now my heart is acting up, requiring a new pacemaker (my third) and an ablation to correct atrial flutter. I have no way of being certain but feel that my new cardiac problems are directly a result of either the virus or from being a virtual invalid for so many months.

As I've mentioned before - having Covid was the easy part. However, dealing with the aftermath and the lingering side effects were a real b!tch! PLEASE don't underestimate what could happen.
 
coltle6920 said:
Apparently the same can be said for the vaccines.

It's sad that people have died whether they were vaccinated or not. Just because millions have taken the shots doesn't mean that it is safe for everyone as so many would have you believe. We are all genetically different. If you have a doctor trust their opinion but the final choice is still yours.

I haven't worn a mask since day one. Never had the flu and never had a flu shot. I keep to myself. I'm not a clean freak. I just avoid touching the obvious things that others do when entering a store and do what business I have during nonpeak hours. I only go where allowed and don't push the issue where there might be a problem.

If I contract Covid it will be my fault and no one elses. When it comes to my body any choices I make will be based on my decision and not that of others. It is my opinion that these vaccines are still experimental and we are the guinea pigs. We can thank God that more people haven't died after being vaccinated.

My body...My choice... And don't even suggest that people like me go around not caring about our fellow man. By protecting my own health like I've done for almost two years I've not endangered anyone elses life regardless of what others would believe.

Don't flame me...You don't know me and it had to be said.
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I won't flame you for your opinions, not that I didn't want to but because I know I shouldn't, especially here. :rolleyes:

I will say that having had both contracted Covid (and dealt with the long-term effects) and having had the vaccine (Moderna in my case), if given the choice I would choose the vaccine over the disease every day of the week and twice on Sunday!
 
I am pretty high risk, and getting worse. I have two specialists. I have trusted them for several years with various aspects of my treatment for the underlying stuff. They are both pro vax, and told me to get it ASAP. I had to fight to get it; according the docs and my employer, I should have been able to get it sooner than I did. The state folks were a PITA about it. Was I nervous? Yup. Even though I was not completely confident in the vax, it was far less risky than doing without.

I'll admit that I am a major needle sissy. Hate the jab, no matter the source, type of shot, whatever. Tough. I suck it up. I even give myself one of my regular shots. I dislike masks. Years in LE tells me that someone in a mask needs to be addressed at gunpoint, a reflex I have had to overcome. Considering that it is pretty likely than the main mode of transmission is airborne, masking is a BFD in terms of protection. (Turns out that the original understanding of the size of transmittable disease molecules is far smaller than the 1950s research indicated, due to a math error back then.) I also hate being told what to do. I sucked it up, got as much info as I could, and made my decision.

My wife and I are not very social, so the isolation made no measurable difference in our lives. I had to work, as my whole office is "essential"; I did not work from home because I knew I would be unproductive. I was one of 2 or 3 in my division instead of the usual 6. (Best. Year. Ever.)

I urge everyone to have a real down and dirty chat with your medical providers about the vax. Even thought it is not perfect and not completely proven, for the overwhelming majority (99% or so), it is safer than the infection. In addition, the less transmission we have, the less mutation, which is a Real Big Deal.
 
I contracted COVID last November, along with half our crew at work. I'm 55, a diabetic and in good shape. My diabetes is under good control and wasn't an issue. Still, I was bedridden for a week, but never needed hospitalization. Chronic fatigue was the only after affect for me. It was a good six months before I felt normal again. My wife and I are now both vaccinated.
 
LVSteve said:
Guy at work also had breakthrough COVID, as did most of his family. The bug broke down the doors on the Pfizer and Johnson vaccines. One had Moderna and showed no symptoms but was never tested, so...

He said the vaccine did exactly as described, taking the edge off the bug to the point he felt he had a really crummy cold, but not much more. He said it did leave them all somewhat fatigued. He is in his mid-40s and in good physical shape.
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Exactly my symptoms except I'm north of my mid 40's and could stand to losse about 30 pounds. Pretty much like a bad cold and general malise but I am convinced that the shots have helped.
 
Get well soon. I was never really that worried about original Covid, but I will say this Delta variant has me pretty nervous. I got my first shot and I'm already due for the second but something is telling me not to do it. I'm very much on the fence here.

But I am 36 and I'm in pretty good shape, I know that doesn't mean much but still
 
Gman686 said:
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But I am 36 and I'm in pretty good shape, I know that doesn't mean much but still
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The delta variance is attacking the
young including small school children.


The vaccines have been generally
available but beause of hold outs,
particularly in the South, the
pandemic in the U.S. has a new
deadly life to it.
 
More bad news. In the quest to avoid a vent the Tx team is recommending " monoclonal antibody injections." I asked "Can it kill me?" "No guarantees whatsoever." Waiting on what's next. Joe
 
pharmer said:
More bad news. In the quest to avoid a vent the Tx team is recommending " monoclonal antibody injections." I asked "Can it kill me?" "No guarantees whatsoever." Waiting on what's next. Joe
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Prayers your way that you can fight this thing off. Like many have said it seems like a long battle but most are making it out over time and I am sure you well as well.
 
UncleEd said:
The delta variance is attacking the
young including small school children.


The vaccines have been generally
available but beause of hold outs,
particularly in the South, the
pandemic in the U.S. has a new
deadly life to it.
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Yup. Thats why delta worries me, but the long term of the vax also worries me
 
The first run of this stuff I didn't know anyone personally that had the covid. This time I know a bunch and most were unvaccinated and so far have been fine. This seems to be spreading a lot more for sure. I got the shot as did my wife about 7 months ago. I also get the flu shot and had the shingles shot. Who knows I might turn into some kind is frankenstien before it is all over.
 
pharmer said:
More bad news. In the quest to avoid a vent the Tx team is recommending " monoclonal antibody injections." I asked "Can it kill me?" "No guarantees whatsoever." Waiting on what's next. Joe
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That's a treatment for the already infected, authorized for use in cases of diagnosed mild to moderate Covid-19.

But that's an entirely different topic from vaccination as preventative action.

But there do seem to be issues with that method. This link has the most recent serious info I could find:

Monoclonal Antibody COVID-19 Infusion | CMS

Nope, I was wrong. Apparently it was indeed just authorized as a preventative method:

FDA authorizes Covid antibody treatment as preventive after exposure
 
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pharmer, wishing you the best in recovery as well as everyone else that has covid or get it.
This covid " issue" is pure, plain outright bio-warfare. Whats going to be done about it????????????.
 
Had the COVID in November. Got it at work as a first responder. Had all the symptoms but mostly mild. And they did linger. Got both shots early this year. First **** made me tired for 36 hours. The second one whipped me out for 36 hours. Spent the day sleeping on the couch. My wife got vaccinated also. She is an ER nurse. We are going to get the booster shot when it's available. I'm not too worried about getting the breakthrough Delta. But, I am worried for my wife.


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Huski92 said:
Had the COVID in November. Got it at work as a first responder. Had all the symptoms but mostly mild. And they did linger. Got both shots early this year. First **** made me tired for 36 hours. The second one whipped me out for 36 hours. Spent the day sleeping on the couch. My wife got vaccinated also. She is an ER nurse. We are going to get the booster shot when it's available. I'm not too worried about getting the breakthrough Delta. But, I am worried for my wife.


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Your wife is a hero for doing what she is doing. From everything I have heard recently if she does get it being vaccinated she should be fine. Also as you know the hospitals take a lot of precautions and that should help keep her safe.
 
In consultation with and on the advice of my Oncologist I am scheduled for my third Pfizer dose on Wednesday based upon my prior treatment. He, and his team, saved my life 5 years ago and I trust them completely. I know there are quite a few cancer patients and survivors here and I urge you to consult your trusted doctor! Please don't respond here to question or argue about the vaccine or virus, that is not my intent here. It is a personal choice and I made it based upon my most trusted medical advisors and their advice.
 
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Pharmer, thanks for sharing your experience so candidly...best wishes to you for a quick and full recovery.

To my brothers and sisters here on the Forum: Please, I beg you, get the vaccine if you haven't already done so. It can literally save your life...and it will help our society as a whole achieve the herd immunity we need to defeat this virus.

We are so blessed to live in a modern era, one in which our medical scientists were able to develop a safe and effective vaccine against this plague in less than a year...that's astonishing! It really is a miracle...let's all take advantage of it.

Please...get the vaccine. Best wishes to you all for good health. :)
 
Beemerguy53 said:
We are so blessed to live in a modern era, one in which our medical scientists were able to develop a safe and effective vaccine against this plague in less than a year...that's astonishing! It really is a miracle...let's all take advantage of it.
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As I understand it, Covid 19 is of a family
of viruses which pharmas were pretty much
aware of for at least a decade.

The development of the vaccine came quickly
because of prior research and development.
 
UncleEd said:
As I understand it, Covid 19 is of a family
of viruses which pharmas were pretty much
aware of for at least a decade.

The development of the vaccine came quickly
because of prior research and development.
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Exactly - years worth in fact.
The miracle was cutting the FDA red tape to allow several stages of the development/testing/approval process to be completed concurrently in parallel instead of having to be done consecutively one at a time.
 
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