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Looking really good.
Crimson Trace Lasergrips for 69xx, 39xx & CS9
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Hill Country,
Count me in as another potential buyer.
very respectfully,
Moose
Count me in as another potential buyer.
very respectfully,
Moose
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Thanks, I will. What model do you need?
Sorry about the delay - SWMBO has had me working on some higher priority (to her) projects, but I intend to start another CT mod this weekend. I'm going to try the CS9 one more time, but it may turn out to be a 3913 or 6906. Keep your fingers crossed.
Does anyone know how thick the 40/45 cal compact frame is? It is a single-stack and the CT LG359 (for the 59xx) should fit around it. If so, and if there is demand, I'll start watching for one which I can use to fit the CT grips on the 40/45's. Let me know if anyone is interested in a CT laser for these models.
Sorry about the delay - SWMBO has had me working on some higher priority (to her) projects, but I intend to start another CT mod this weekend. I'm going to try the CS9 one more time, but it may turn out to be a 3913 or 6906. Keep your fingers crossed.
Does anyone know how thick the 40/45 cal compact frame is? It is a single-stack and the CT LG359 (for the 59xx) should fit around it. If so, and if there is demand, I'll start watching for one which I can use to fit the CT grips on the 40/45's. Let me know if anyone is interested in a CT laser for these models.
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I have a 4013TSW that I could measure. Are you talking the actual thickness of the metal or the width of the frame?
Would defiantly be interested in a CT for it.
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I'm interested in the width - side to side with the grips off - of the frame. From memory, I believe the 59xx/69xx, which are double stacks, are one inch thick. As long as the compact 40/45 frame is thinner than that, I believe I can adapt the CT grip for the 59xx to fit.
If you'd let me know the measurement the next time you have the grips off, I'd appreciate it. No rush, I'm going to have my hands full for a while with the 9mm's.
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Frame Families
Sub Compact Frame, Single Stack
9mm,
CS9
.40 & .45 cal
CS40, CS45
Compact Frame, Single Stack
9mm
3904, 3906, 3944, 3946, 909, 3953TSW, 3913, 3914, 3914DAO, 3953, 3954, 908
.40 & 45 cal
4513TSW, 4553TSW, 4013, 4014, 4053, 4054, 4516, 4556, 457
Compact Frame, Double Stack
9mm & .40 cal
4013TSW, 4053TSW, 4056TSW, 6904, 6906, 6944, 6946
6924, 6926 (frame mounted decocker)
Large Frame, Single Stack
.45 cal & 10 mm
4563TSW, 4566TSW, 4583TSW, 4586TSW, 4505, 4567, 1006, 1066, 1086, 4506, 4546, 4566, 4586, 4596
1026, 1076, 4526, 4576 (frame mounted decocker)
4536 (frame mounted decocker)
Large Frame, Double Stack
9mm & .40 cal (LG359)
4006CHP, 4003TSW, 4006TSW, 4043TSW, 4046TSW, 410, 4003, 4004, 4006, 4043, 4044, 4046, 411, 5903, 5903SSV, 5904, 5906, 5943, 5943SSV, 5944, 5946, 5967, 5945RCMP, 5903TSW, 5906TSW, 5943TSW, 5946TSW, 910, 915, Super9
4026, 5923,
5924, 5926 (frame mounted decocker)
Sub Compact Frame, Single Stack
9mm,
CS9
.40 & .45 cal
CS40, CS45
Compact Frame, Single Stack
9mm
3904, 3906, 3944, 3946, 909, 3953TSW, 3913, 3914, 3914DAO, 3953, 3954, 908
.40 & 45 cal
4513TSW, 4553TSW, 4013, 4014, 4053, 4054, 4516, 4556, 457
Compact Frame, Double Stack
9mm & .40 cal
4013TSW, 4053TSW, 4056TSW, 6904, 6906, 6944, 6946
6924, 6926 (frame mounted decocker)
Large Frame, Single Stack
.45 cal & 10 mm
4563TSW, 4566TSW, 4583TSW, 4586TSW, 4505, 4567, 1006, 1066, 1086, 4506, 4546, 4566, 4586, 4596
1026, 1076, 4526, 4576 (frame mounted decocker)
4536 (frame mounted decocker)
Large Frame, Double Stack
9mm & .40 cal (LG359)
4006CHP, 4003TSW, 4006TSW, 4043TSW, 4046TSW, 410, 4003, 4004, 4006, 4043, 4044, 4046, 411, 5903, 5903SSV, 5904, 5906, 5943, 5943SSV, 5944, 5946, 5967, 5945RCMP, 5903TSW, 5906TSW, 5943TSW, 5946TSW, 910, 915, Super9
4026, 5923,
5924, 5926 (frame mounted decocker)
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OK, thanks for confirming that for me. Looks like we're good to go as the 4013TSW uses the same size grip as the 6906 (which I've done).
I posted above what I think are the frame families based on what I could gleen from the S&W grip part numbers and the SCSW.
If anyone sees any errors or omissions in the above table I hope they'll bring them to my attention. It would be nice to incorporate the above along with barrel length, weight, and capacity in to a sticky.
The lines in red are the families for which I don't have a pistol to fit the CT's to. So if anyone is interested in CT's for any of these models in red, please let me know so I'll have an excuse to add to my collection. <G> (But, dear, the guys really want CT's and I had to buy it. <G>)
So far this morning, I've hung Christmas lights over the driveway; made the first steps in modifying a CT grip for a CS9 (I hope); set up the turkey fryer and I'm about ready to start cooking.
Thank you Carrera for the bird day wishes and a good one back at you and everyone else on the forum.
Best,
John
I posted above what I think are the frame families based on what I could gleen from the S&W grip part numbers and the SCSW.
If anyone sees any errors or omissions in the above table I hope they'll bring them to my attention. It would be nice to incorporate the above along with barrel length, weight, and capacity in to a sticky.
The lines in red are the families for which I don't have a pistol to fit the CT's to. So if anyone is interested in CT's for any of these models in red, please let me know so I'll have an excuse to add to my collection. <G> (But, dear, the guys really want CT's and I had to buy it. <G>)
So far this morning, I've hung Christmas lights over the driveway; made the first steps in modifying a CT grip for a CS9 (I hope); set up the turkey fryer and I'm about ready to start cooking.
Thank you Carrera for the bird day wishes and a good one back at you and everyone else on the forum.
Best,
John
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Hill Country,
I'd be interested in the Crimson Trace grips for the 3913.
Any ideas what you might charge? I want to support your initiative, entrepreneurship and craftsmanship, but I have no idea what the rate should be for such things.
very respectfully,
Moose
I'd be interested in the Crimson Trace grips for the 3913.
Any ideas what you might charge? I want to support your initiative, entrepreneurship and craftsmanship, but I have no idea what the rate should be for such things.
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Moose
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Hill_Country
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Thanks, Moose. I appreciate the kind words and support.
Yesterday I started modifying a set that will be the last (I hope) prototype. I spent a good bit of time on the first two building jigs, collecting materials and tools, and generally experimenting and this time I want to see how long it actually takes me to do the modifications. I'd like to get the time down to where I can sell them for about $100 over the cost of the CT grips. The best price I've found on the grips is $239.99 and a volume purchase might get that down a few bucks. We'll have to see how it goes, but that's what I'm shooting for. It takes me several weeks because I have to wait for the filler compounds to cure between steps, but I hope it won't be to much longer before I can give you some firm numbers. If you'll send me your email address and model needed to jeakin at airsafety.com I'll let you know.
Best,
John
Yesterday I started modifying a set that will be the last (I hope) prototype. I spent a good bit of time on the first two building jigs, collecting materials and tools, and generally experimenting and this time I want to see how long it actually takes me to do the modifications. I'd like to get the time down to where I can sell them for about $100 over the cost of the CT grips. The best price I've found on the grips is $239.99 and a volume purchase might get that down a few bucks. We'll have to see how it goes, but that's what I'm shooting for. It takes me several weeks because I have to wait for the filler compounds to cure between steps, but I hope it won't be to much longer before I can give you some firm numbers. If you'll send me your email address and model needed to jeakin at airsafety.com I'll let you know.
Best,
John
raven818
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I'm assuming that since the 6906 is what started this, that it will be the first type available?
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Hill_Country
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Your hint that I get to work is noted. <G>
Seriously, I'll fill the orders as I received them and you're high on the list.
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Thanks, I'm very pleased with them. What started out as simply a way to put a CT laser on a single weapon has taken on a life of its own. <G>
Last week my CT supplier emailed me that CT is going up on all their prices after the first of the year so I ordered his entire stock plus a few more. The first box came in today's mail so I guess production starts tomorrow. I have to stop several times and allow things to cure for a few days so it will be several weeks before the first production models are ready.
I PM'ed the mod last week to see how far I could go selling in the forum, but haven't heard from him. <hint, hint, mod> But I think it is safe to tell you that I'll be sending out an email in the next few days with details to all the people who expressed interest in the CT grips. (If there is anyone interested who hasn't sent me their email address, please do. jeakin at airsafety.com)
Best,
John
Last week my CT supplier emailed me that CT is going up on all their prices after the first of the year so I ordered his entire stock plus a few more. The first box came in today's mail so I guess production starts tomorrow. I have to stop several times and allow things to cure for a few days so it will be several weeks before the first production models are ready.
I PM'ed the mod last week to see how far I could go selling in the forum, but haven't heard from him. <hint, hint, mod> But I think it is safe to tell you that I'll be sending out an email in the next few days with details to all the people who expressed interest in the CT grips. (If there is anyone interested who hasn't sent me their email address, please do. jeakin at airsafety.com)
Best,
John
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Wish I had an easy answer for you. I started with the CT grips for the 59xx series and cut them down. I first did a 6906 - a doublestack - then figured out how to do a singlestack. The CS9 was the real challenge because the grip is so short that it interferes with the circuit board.
There was lots of trial and error. I typed up my notes - one line per step - and it is more than two pages, if that tells you anything. The masterswitch has to be removed and filled. The inside has to be ground out and new locating points built. I built jigs to cut the length and edge and locate the retention screw.
It has been kind of a fun challenge, but I wouldn't do it again. However, I really like the CT laser and it has been worth the pain.
Best,
John
There was lots of trial and error. I typed up my notes - one line per step - and it is more than two pages, if that tells you anything. The masterswitch has to be removed and filled. The inside has to be ground out and new locating points built. I built jigs to cut the length and edge and locate the retention screw.
It has been kind of a fun challenge, but I wouldn't do it again. However, I really like the CT laser and it has been worth the pain.
Best,
John
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Sending an email regarding a set of 908 grips now, with my work email. This is awesome.
John, thanks for the quick response. I don't know why CT didn't manufacture grips for the 3913/908's, but I am glad someone figured it out. Looking forward to the grips.
John, thanks for the quick response. I don't know why CT didn't manufacture grips for the 3913/908's, but I am glad someone figured it out. Looking forward to the grips.
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