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I met a man today that was selling a S&W 586, nickel finish with a 6" barrel. We arrived at our agreed place almost at the same time. I looked over the revolver and it had not been used much at all. The frame was stamped 586. It had powder residue that had been there some time. I told the man I would buy it and gave him the $750.00 he was asking. He told me this was my Dad's gun, he passed a few years ago. He shrugged and said I'm not into revolvers. The guy looked like he could use the money. I was glad to get the revolver on one hand but had some regret getting his Dad's gun. He placed the Smith in it's holster and handed it to me. He did not take his eyes off the revolver / holster. I asked him do you want to keep the holster, he said yeah it was my Dad's. I gave it to him. I have cleaned his Dad's gun and I will enjoy it for his son. The holster looked like laminated plastic and leather. I would have tossed it. It had value to the son. 20230901_170526.jpg

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My Dad and I got our pistol permits only a month apart. My first gun was a Ruger Single Six because that was all I could afford. His first was a 1911, because that's what he used in WWII.

Mine was new and not really collectible at the time. His was circa 1924 and although nice shape, it was well used. When he went back to buy some more ammo, the dealer said he made a mistake and offered him $125 for it. dad said no, he'd keep it.

I paid $80. He paid $85. We shot both together for many years.

His 1911 was a commercial milspec and was not very accurate. But he (nor I) didn't really care. As long as it hit a newspaper it was OK.

Naturally, I inherited it. Turns out it was a 1911 / A1 transitional model and by the serial number it's worth $11,000.

It will go to his grandson. Even if it was only worth $125 a family heirloom MUST stay in the family, no matter how poor we may become.
 
You're a good man, wgg.

Shortly after my discharge from the USAF in 1979 as an LE Specialist, I took the family home for a visit and I told my father that I felt nekked without a Model 15 on my hip. He went to his bedroom and came back with a Model 10, with the box and other goodies and gave it to me. I kept my AF-issued holster and web belt, so I was all set. Still have the holster. I outgrew the web belt.

That was the only handgun I had until I joined this forum, and thanks to all the enablers here, I now own enough for my satisfaction.

I gave the Model 10 to my son several years ago.
 
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I bought a "dad's gun" several years ago. I told the seller it was underpriced (Tula SKS with 1000 rounds of ammo for $350) disregarding any sentimental value. He said he had no interest in that particular firearm and was happy to see it go to someone who would appreciated it.

I donated several of my dad's guns to the museum in the community where he lived. They will be in the permanent collection and not end up in a pawn shop.
 
My dad died young at 57 of a heart attack. He didn't have a lot of guns and had given me some over the years. I always loved his pencil barrel model 10-5. As a kid it was awesome to shoot. But HIS favorite gun was his trusty old Winchester model 12. The amount of game he took with that gun over the years would fill a tractor trailer. Deer, ducks, geese, squirrels, turkeys, and varmits of every kind. It's a 28" modified barrel and he could group deer slugs at 100yds with it. He said it was all he needed. Yet when I became old enough to hunt he made sure I had an 870 Wingmaster with slug barrel and scope. There is no amount of money that would buy that model 12 or the model 10.
 
I'd be a little misty eyed selling that gun even if it wasn't my dad's. A 6" nickel 586 is a dream gun of mine. Also an 8 3/8" nickel 27-2 or older.
 
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That is a fine looking wheel gun.

I feel compassion for the seller, but at the same time, he made his choice. I personally wouldn't have parted with such a weapon and if it had sentimental value, but people gotta weigh their choices.

Good buy for you, and kind to leave the holster with the man.

Congrats on the new to you wheel gun!
 
My Father wasn't a "gun guy" but he had a 12 ga Sears-Roebuck pump gun that he'd use at the local VFD turkey shoots. He must have won a truckload of hams, turkeys, and bacon slabs with that gun, at least to hear him tell it. Plus "side bets" and he'd rent it out to others to shoot. Probably never saw anything but low brass number 8's.

But it meant nothing to me really. I'd never even seen it in his hands I don't think. I was grown and long gone before he got it. Other than "it was his" it was just another 12 ga Sears pump. No memories associated with it at all.

I kept it a while. My wife used it hunting a couple of times. Then one afternoon at the LGS I ran into one of my nephews. Somehow the conversation came around to that Sears gun, and I mentioned that it was in my safe "gathering dust." He said he'd be proud to have it. He remembered going to the turkey shoots with PaPa. After promising me he wasn't going to hack the barrel off or any other such foolishness, I passed it on to him.
 
I don't particularly feel sad for the seller as he said he wasn't into revolvers and that maybe the holster was enough for his memories of his Dad. My own Dad pawned off his Winchester model 70 in .264 and his model 62a Winchester .22…both of these guns were the first rifle that my brother and I had learned to shoot with(mod 62a) and take our first deer and more with(mod 70)…. Older brother and I were both disappointed with our Dad as either of us would have helped him out or purchased the rifles that we had endeared as family heirlooms. Our Dad had sunken into alcoholism heavily at the end of his life cycle unfortunately and I don't really hold it against him anymore…. I do have the best part of my memories of hunting and exploring the Montana high line with him and that is more valuable than one can express…..nice 586 btw!!
 
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I've posted my dad's revolver before-bought new Sept. 1981 686 4"-that I inherited when he passed in '92. Thankfully both my sons appreciate firearms so this will stay in the family for awhile. It's going to my older son that has 3 kids-the oldest will be 10 in October and he's been enjoying shooting a pellet rifle in my basement.

There are always items left behind that while meant something to the owner many times the heirs don't care. Sad.

 
Sad but I find myself in the familiar situation - I treasure my dad's guns but have no one in the family that will feel the same way and revere them as family heirlooms. One young grandson growing up states away in a school system and society doing their best to indoctrinate him early on that guns are evil and shouldn't be owned or even tolerated. Don't have the means or opportunities I wish I had to fight that constant barrage. My daughters grew up ambivalent about guns and hunting as "dad's thing" since their mother had no interest or inclination.

Stood at the counter far too many times watching someone selling dad's or grand dad's cherished firearms for a pittance or trading for a %#*&! "X" box or some other useless trash that won't endure.

You have to make peace with the thought that all such "stuff" eventually ends up that way, and though it is natural to want someone else to value and love what we have loved and valued, disappointment in the failure of that to come to pass is on us. And it is a worldly affectation that is detrimental to an eternal outlook. Like a song lyric I remember, "The hardest part is letting go." Sooner or later, we all have to let it go.
 
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After being in WWll on Okinawa My Dad swore He would never shoot another living thing. He relented when pheasant season came around and We hunted pheasants for many years. Never anything else. My Mom won about $450 at the dog track one time and went to Montgomery Wards and bought a new washer/dryer combo. Walking out She passed the gun counter and low and behold saw a Browning A 5. Happens She had enough cash left to buy it. I still have it today and it's not for sale. That was in 1960.
 
Thinking about my dad and his shotgun, brought back a memory from LONG, LONG, ago. WARNING! Long and probably boring.

My mother had a chest of drawers in the living room that held all kinds of junk, but the top drawer was full of old black and white photo's. No order, just tossed in the drawer. I used to go through them just for something to do. Most were just pictures of people, the kids, the house, but one always caught my eye. It was of my father, a much younger man, leaning against an old car. Buy old I mean it had running boards, but what kind of car I have no idea. He's wearing a suit, but the jacket to tossed across the hood of the car. He has one foot up on the running board, and he has a revolver in each hand. I would swear they were Smith and Wesson 38's, but I doubt I'd have known that back then.

I remember asking my mother about the picture and what happened to those guns. She looked at me, and if looks could kill, I wouldn't be here today. "They're toys, and that's all you need to know."

Ok...I know when to drop a subject. I never thought about it again, until at the funeral home for my fathers funeral, the minister is asking for any little personal stories about my father that he could work into the service. My mother told about seeing him for the first time at the little store up the road, then going home and mentioning him to her mother. She said her mother sternly told her..."You stay away from that man. He's a Bootlegger." I laughed at the story, and again didn't think more of it, until some time later I told my now wife about it. She asked the question. "Well? Was he?" Was he what I asked, actually confused...was he what? "A BOOTLEGGER, you idiot!"

Heck, a lot of people ran and made shine back then. Nothing unusual about it really. I never thought about it. It was just a story. Not that I know of anyway. But then I got to thinking about it. I do remember he and my uncles talking about fast cars and racing the cops, then looking at me and saying "You don't hear any of this boy. You got it?" Yes sir. I got it.

Also, my mother was deathly opposed to handguns. Not guns, she came from a family of hunters. But she said only two type of people had handguns, cops and crooks, and I wasn't either. She had a hissy fit when I got my first handgun, even though I hadn't lived at home for years.

I still don't know the "rest of the story" but I sure wish I could find that picture again, and I'd really like to know about those two pistols. Now, I'll bet they could tell a story. I do not believe they were toys.
 
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Nice 586 and gesture leaving the holster with the young man. It is not really rare, but it is uncommon in the Nickle finish. The 586/686 are great pistols.

As for what to do with guns, I have no children and only one niece and nephew, neither of which have the slightest interest in guns.

Have no plans on selling them for a while, but I will someday. I am 62 now and spent a lifetime gathering them up. My dad has some guns that will come to me when he passes, but that will just add to the dilemma of what to do with them.

I have my grandads 1964 produced 10/22 and will never sell that gun or any of the ones from my dad.
 
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We had my elder son and his children out to our place in the country to help me celebrate my 71st birthday. After lunch we headed out into the woods to my private range.
We wanted to give the grandkids (17 and 20) a little range time. After a reminder about gun safety I brought out my Herrington and Richardson 22 revolver, which they enjoyed shooting. This was your great grandfather's gun. Next came the Marlin bolt action 22 rifle, a lot of smiles shooting it. This was your great great grandfather's gun.
A lot of young people don't seem very sentimental, but these two really seemed to enjoy seeing and shooting these treasures from our family history.
 
Congrats on your recent purchase! I'm sure you will like it. I have one shotgun that belonged to my dad and it's not a high end gun, but it was still his. I have bought and sold too many guns over the years. But over the last several years, I have been doing more buying and almost no selling. I have a son and three grandsons(all toddlers). I want to make sure they all have one or more of my guns. My guns aren't heirlooms but I do have some quality guns. My hope is they will keep and enjoy the guns long long after I am gone.
 
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An old AF Friend asks me if I could take her Dad's pre -64 Model 70 to a Gunshow and sell it.
I told her, that shouldn't be that difficult.
But -when it's gone, it's gone.
I know you have two Sons.
One of them might want it.
And there's no sign in sight that Pre-64 Model 70s will not continue to increase in value.
She decided to keep the rifle.
 
Differing attitudes about guns in families or generations can make things weird.
When my uncle passed, his widow, who wasn't a big gun person, asked my father to hold on to her husbands shotgun until my cousin was old enough. Dad put it in the gun cabinet, and there it stayed. Unbeknonst to me, years later, when my cousin was about 16 or so, my father asked my aunt if he was old enough, and even offered to take Eric hunting with it. She told him at that time that Eric didn't want it and he should keep it. Back in the gun cabinet it went.
Another decade and a half goes by, and my father gives the gun to my oldest brother with the stipulation that he can't sell it. I told my brother, not being privvy to all the details, that I thought dad was just holding it for Eric all this time and if so, rightfully it should go to Eric. He get's ahold of Eric and lo and behold, he's not interested.
Later, my brother tells me that he is thinking of selling the gun at a pawn shop. Yeah, I know. I don't like him much either. Rather than have that happen, I swap my brother a cheap autoloding shotgun that I got for $100 and chopped the barrel to 22" with an angle grinder. It was a truck gun, but he'd still have a shotgun. Also I'd pay him $500. Of course he took the deal.
Fast forward a couple of years and my aunt gets ahold of me. Seems her husband, who was Eric's stepdad from the age of 10 or so, decided to give all his guns to his son from his first marriage and none to Eric. This kind of hurt Eric's feelings and understandably so. She had called my dad and he had told her I had the gun. So she called me and asked if I had it. I said, "Yes. Want it back?" She told me the story and we agreed to meet up.
We met in a Sportsman's Warehouse parking lot. She pulled up, opened the back and I set the case inside. She thanked me and then said that dad had told her about me buying it back from Bob. I said a few unflattering words about my brother and she asked me how much I had paid him. I told her and she pulled out her checkbook. I told her no, you're not paying me for the gun, it belongs to Eric. We argued for 5 minutes and she wore me down, so I took the check. Still didn't feel right.
 
I'm inspired. My grandsons live in New York City and the eldest keeps bugging me to get a NYC permit. I'm thinking it's time to pass my dad's rifle on along with its history.

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I thought it was a 1950s cheap German import. Instead, I was told by an expert that it's a 1930s training rifle, by F. W. Heym, pre-East/West so it just says Germany. The Germans were training for the 1936 Olympics and there were a lot of these quality training rifles around. It's actually worth at least $350! I figured fifty bucks! Time to let it go to the next generation methinks......

Besides, oh, dear, I have so many more guns for those boys down the road! :D
 
My wife's Grandfather was having a yard/pre estate sale. He had a Savage 410 he wanted to get rid of. He replaced a lost trigger guard with stainless steel he fashioned to fit. I wanted it because of family ownership. This was back in 1976. I shot it once, then hung it on the wall in the den. He did give me a family discount.
 
I've got one from my Dad and one from the only grand father I knew. The other died just before I was born. My son and I are of like mind in the things we collect, shoot, and hunt with. I'll be 76 in December and know I'm going to go sooner rather than later. All my stuff goes to my son wth instructions to pass them to my grand son if he's responsible enough.
 
Sad to hear it but at least it went to another gun lover.

I wonder if anybody will ever feel the same way about selling "Dad's gun" if it's a plastic gun like an M&P or Glock? They just don't seem to have that same importance.
 
I wonder if anybody will ever feel the same way about selling "Dad's gun" if it's a plastic gun like an M&P or Glock? They just don't seem to have that same importance.

Depends on exactly what kind of memories are attached to it.

The first center fire revolver I shot was a S&W model 30 snub that dad had bought second-hand. He didn't keep it long, feeling he needed at least a .38; but I wish I still had that gun. So much so that I eventually had to add one to my collection - for no other reason but the memory of shooting it with my dad at the time. Many who frequent this forum love the .32's because - well, hell - they love pretty much any S&W revolver; but for the most part the .32 snub models are an anachronism these days, appealing only to enthusiasts and aficionados and considered by most others as antique, outdated, under powered and pretty much useless. A nostalgic gun for a collector/hobbyist.

If "dad's Glock or M&P plastic auto" was the subject of the same scenario as described above, the value is in who you got it from, the memory, the association with a happy time that was gone quickly and way too soon. One man's 'trash' is often another man's 'treasure'.
 
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I've got one from my Dad and one from the only grand father I knew. The other died just before I was born. My son and I are of like mind in the things we collect, shoot, and hunt with. I'll be 76 in December and know I'm going to go sooner rather than later. All my stuff goes to my son wth instructions to pass them to my grand son if he's responsible enough.

I like this idea. When my son was in his 20s, he was not in a good place. I would not have wanted him to have any of my guns at that time. I more than trust him now but who know what my grandsons will be like.
 
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