DBC systems for 400 yards

[Bronco89]

I'm a (4x32-scope) less than 150-yard guy. But, I've been thinking about turret scopes recently. I just ordered one for a .22LR Marlin 60, a BSA 2-7x32 Sweet 22. Really, I just ordered it to scratch a curious itch. It has an adjustable turret that after adjusting, is advertised to take a .22LR bullet at a specific weight and velocity out to 300 Yards. Now, I am curious, and my expectations are not that high. But it does have me thinking about things like Mil-Dot scopes, and BDC scopes. Between the two, I prefer Mil-Dot. Why? Well, I have never used a turret preset for distance, or a reticle with distance marks on them, and they seem in concept to be a bit restrictive, and not take into account the many other various factors. On the other hand, If I have a bullet that drops (X) at 200yards, and (Y) at 300 yards, and (Z) at 400 Yards, now this can be translated easily into Mil-Dots. The data is from my rounds, from My gun, where I live, (Elevation).
BSA, is offering the turret (Sweet) system in .270 as well. And it is marked out to 600 yards from what I understand. With a Federal factory 130gr fusion load, the Federal ballistics chart is showing about a 6-MOA drop from 100 yards zero, with 1300lb if energy. If this turret system works, and I can successfully pull it off at the range repeatedly, then I would for the first time consider taking a 400-yard shot. Still, it feels gimmicky. Bushnell, makes a MOA reticle scope, (Engage 3-9x40) that will likely be the winner for my deer gun. But would the MOA hashes only be accurate at (9x)? I don't know. I know Bushnell is likely a better scope, but the BSA lets me try this technology without bankrupting a small nation.

Does anyone use a BDC system of some kind to extend their range? What system do you use and why? The BSA 2-7x32 Sweet will be tested on rabbits in my field, and likely coyotes that are bad this year. The bold Coys are getting close. Last night, inside of 100 Yards. I've got a 5.56, but I really hate I mean hate coyotes and don't mind experimenting on their sorry carcases.

 

[Farmer17]

I have a measuring wheel I use in my construction business so I can walk and push the wheel and measure about any distance pretty accurately or I can walk and my steps are almost exactly one yard so I can measure that way if I don't want to get out the wheel. I like Mil dot scopes and sight it in for each dot at different distances and when I'm hunting I don't use a range finder, I have to guess at the yardage so it doesn't have to be exact since I'm not shooting at really long distance. I never liked the idea of constantly adjusting the cross hairs since those are very tiny and delicate gears and prefer to just get the scope sighted in and leave it, then use the mil dots for different ranges.

 

[Bronco89]

If my experiment with the BSA is a success, I'll likely buy a distance scope for my deer guns. I'm thinking, (Bushnell Engage Rifle Scope 3-9x 40mm Deploy MOA Reticle) Unless of course the BSA just blows me away, then I'll buy another Sweet in .270 & .30-30.

 

[Bronco89]

I have a measuring wheel I use in my construction business so I can walk and push the wheel and measure about any distance pretty accurately or I can walk and my steps are almost exactly one yard so I can measure that way if I don't want to get out the wheel. I like Mil dot scopes and sight it in for each dot at different distances and when I'm hunting I don't use a range finder, I have to guess at the yardage so it doesn't have to be exact since I'm not shooting at really long distance. I never liked the idea of constantly adjusting the cross hairs since those are very tiny and delicate gears and prefer to just get the scope sighted in and leave it, then use the mil dots for different ranges.

I understand what you are saying. I am thinking that's where I'll end up, both with the deer guns, and the Marlin 60. I zero my scopes at a marked range. In the field, I know how big my field is from my stand to the wood lines. I guess at distances with that knowledge in mind. But again, this is new for me. I usually keep it inside of a 125-150 Yards, and with a .270 a 30/30- reticle, 4x32 does the job nicely. I'm just tired of watching bucks at the far side of that field at 300-400 yards graze through my binoculars.

 

[Rule3]

Per the instructions the calibration is for Hornady or Rem ammo. How they do that is beyond me?
How often to you change bullets from 36, 38 and 40 gr. The trajectory change between them is not that much unless you are going for tiny head shots.
I am in no way a scope expert and certainly am not a high dollar scope buyer, but for a $60 scope I have doubts.


https://bsaoptics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/SWEET-22SP.pdf

 

[Bronco89]

.....
I am in no way a scope expert and certainly am not a high dollar scope buyer, but for a $60 scope I have doubts.....]

Me too, But it's scheduled for delivery today, so I'm going to give it a shot.

Yep… I have my doubts, but it's a neat concept. I imagine that I'll settle into that Bushnell Engage 3-9x40 MOA scope for deer. But I can't experiment at $150 a hit. I'm a po'boy. $150 is about my budget for a scope. I've bought a lot of Bushnell scopes, but I dream of a Vortex..

Besides, I've been pleasantly surprised at a few mid to high end Simmons scopes so who knows. I mean it's a low end scope and that is my expectation. Bushnell on the other hand I have been really happy with.

 

[Bronco89]

I went with a Vortex Crossfire II 2-7x32 BDC