Just trying to find the laws on the use of deadly force in Minnesota. I do not have a permit to carry and don't plan to get one. I do keep a gun in the house loaded and trigger locked and one in the car cased in the trunk with a speed loader handy and that as far as I want to go with it. But what are my rights to use deadly force. I have looked and googled a lot...any help.
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cmort666
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Trigger locks are dangerous and I don't recommend them.
When I took the NRA Basic Pistol instructor's course, the training counselor showed us just how easy it was to fire a semi-auto handgun with a trigger lock installed.
The safest place for a loaded gun is in a holster on your body.
When I took the NRA Basic Pistol instructor's course, the training counselor showed us just how easy it was to fire a semi-auto handgun with a trigger lock installed.
The safest place for a loaded gun is in a holster on your body.
marvin the martian
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I agree with cmort. Loaded gun + trigger lock = Negligent discharge.
I have try-ed to fire this weapon with the lock on...no way can it be done. My wife and I live alone and feel this is "what makes us feel safe" real or perceived. But I am willing to reconsider this...if I am off base. I could get a lock box for the bed side table if you guys think thats safer.
Check here: http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/minnesota.pdf . Page 4 lists the code sections on deadly force.
I, for one, would favor that option for this reason...the time it would take to unlock the firearm in a stressful time coupled with the possible ND.
Even the lockbox might not be quick enough depending on the circumstances. Good luck, Preston
cmort666
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My training counselor fired a semi-auto handgun with a trigger lock by forcefully striking the trigger lock on the edge of a table. The trigger was definitely pulled.
A lock box or safe is infinitely preferable.
I understand the trigger lock being a problem for some...the house is locked from the inside and can't be entered without breaking glass to get in...I have practiced drilled and rehearsed as they say and I am comfortable with my set-up I am not comfortable with a loaded gun sitting on my bed stand.
keith44spl
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The "gun safe" is something I have seen and may be something to consider but with gun in hand and key is hidden close by I feel I can unlock it in the time I would need... the cat knocked over a glass vase one night and I was ready...Cat's dead now...old age got em not me.
Dave...not everyone is going to take the CCDW course and eat live and breath the issues of hauling a gun around all the time...at least not me. I have been trained in gun safty and self defence in the army... I am good. When some jerk breaks in the house I'm not going to think to hard about it. I may yell out from the back room or put a round through the floor and stay put...I may try my luck at sneaking up on him. We will see how it feels at the time it is happening. But I will be armed and ready.
I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do; by all means do what you want. Nevertheless...
I, too, would recommend taking the CCDW class. The Army trained me how to shoot people, but that didn't stop me from receiving any number of ROE briefs whenever I deployed into a theater. I already had a permit from another state that permitted me to carry concealed in Kentucky, but I took a CCDW class to learn the "ROE" in my state.
If, heaven forbid, I ever find myself justifying my actions to a Commonwealth Attorney, judge, or jury, I'd like them to know that I've been trained on when deadly force is or isn't authorized.
My two cents. Again, do whatever you choose.
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Jim in Wisconsin
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I got one of my CMP M1's with a trigger lock-go figure!
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Google is your friend. You can look up your state firearms laws online. Assuming you are not a lawyer you may not completely understand them. Check with the NRA they can recommend a firearms / self defense savvy lawyer in your state you can speak with for any legal-eze clarification but it will cost ya. Taking a ccw course will help even if you never plan on getting the permit. At the very least think of it as a class on you state laws even if nothing more. And really the permit doesn't require that you have to carry a gun but your covered should you ever need to. But a ccw class does not completely cover all applicable laws in detail.
As far as the trigger lock goes... Do as you wish. But it could very well get you killed should you ever need that gun for self defense. A electronic quick access safe would be much better. I wouldnt be willing to bet my life on my ability to find a key and work the lock half asleep, scared as hell and in the dark. Just my $0.02
Hi:
If the firearm is not on your person or in your hand, its too far away.
Trigger Locks are the answer to a non-existance problem.
If one is uncomfortable with a semi-auto, why not have a double action revolver?
Jimmy
If the firearm is not on your person or in your hand, its too far away.
Trigger Locks are the answer to a non-existance problem.
If one is uncomfortable with a semi-auto, why not have a double action revolver?
Jimmy
I don't know why you're so set on a lock, maybe you've got kids, who knows. I do know that a gun is a tool, an inanimate object, and if you don't pull the trigger and fire it, it won't do anything on it's own. I have a gun on my night stand in the same place every night and it has yet to do anything on it's own (yes, I have kids).
There's been several times during the night when a noise or something odd has woken me and set my spidey sense tingling enough to reach for my gun and flashlight. So far it's been nothing, the cats, the wind, whatever. But, should the ay come that something actually goes wrong and I NEED that gun, I'm not going to have to try and remove a trigger lock or do anything else to access or bring my gun into action. Generally, when you need a gun, you need it NOW, don't make it more difficult than it has to be.
keith44spl
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Dryrider,
Good for you...Although ya might wanta to take a peek under the house for water and drain lines before you go shootin' the floor up.
Regards,
Su Amigo,
Dave
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