Debating on Getting Rid of my Brand New M&P9 in Favor of a Sig P226

Your talking two completely different guns. Either will serve you well. I like Sig but don't like the long DA trigger.

If you want to experience something truly incredible, see if you can get your hands on a P226 Enhanced Elite.
 
I carried a Sig P226 and at times a P228 the few years I was a Police Officer. Never had any problems with them. Accurate, Accurate, Accurate!!! Absolutely great guns! I still shoot them along with my lovable Smith revolvers!!! Good Luck, Skip48
 
I 'am a 61 year old retired LE officer that grew up with revolvers and still have a bunch of them(40 or 50). Since I had lots of experience with S&W double action guns, transiting to the P226 was easy and I quickly mastered its long double action trigger( feels like a S&W to me). I carried the P226 in 357 Sig until I retired in 2003. I still have several Sigs; 3 357 P226's, 2 9mm P226's, 2 P228's, a P225, and a 22LR P226 and a 22LR P229. The P226 is my go to gun if the - - - - hits the fan. I'm not much on polymer guns but have a few M&P's, a 357, a 9mm, a 9mm 5", a 45, and just recently a 22LR(I like 22 training guns). Comparing the Sig P226 to the M&P is like apples and oranges, they are two different things. BTW, the, the SigPro is not the same as the P226. It has an Astra like locking system that I've seen fail on the range to the point of making the gun unusable. Mec-Gar does make the current issue Sig mags and the excellent anti-friction 18 round mag in 9mm. I'd suggest that you get a police trade in P226 at a good price and shoot it to see if you like it. They have already been shot and it won't hurt the value of it. If you really want to learn how to shoot, get either the P226 or M&P in 22LR and shoot all you want. Bob!
 
The P226 is a tack driver. They make or made a version named E2 which had a smaller grip. If you want a CCW pistol, the Sig is going to be a good gun until the weather gets warmer and you wear less to cover it.
 
I paid $289.00 for my first Sig P226, new from the wholesaler.
It has been a reliable and trusted gun since. It is one of five P226s I have and one of the fifteen Sigs I own.

The only down side to Sigs is that you have to maintain the finish far more than you do a Glock. Great guns.

Rule 303
 
Sig is great, M&P wins by simplicity (and price range).
 
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Ill just leave this here for ya .:D



After reading your description, I cannot see a 5906 S&W doing something worse than a Sig, and it fits your criterion without costing an arm and your newborn son. Understand I don't post this to slam on Sig or to advance the Smith and Wesson cause, but a 5906 meets all your needs mentioned in the original post for anywhere from $100-$200 less in price. With creative budgeting you may not need to trade your M&P at all, which means you don't loose the experience you have in shooting it.


For what it is worth, keeping a polymer service pistol is a great idea for a carry gun. Should the unthinkable happen the piece you use to defend yourself will be confiscated by the fuzz, & which gun would you rather be seized? A $900 retail piece that may 'dissapear' into the Sheriffs gun safe, or a generic M&P or 3rd Generation S&W that can be replaced at a much lower cost?
 
I was thinking about the 226 myself. Some are made in NH. when I was talking to the range master about the 226 and the M&P he said both were excelent handguns. The Sig was a great gun but the company itself definetly has room for improvement, the costumer service sucks. The range has to constenly replace the barrels on the guns because of so many rounds being fired through them. He said the Sig needs to have a new barrel every 200,000 rounds, as for the M&P need a new barrel every 400,000 to 600,000 rounds. The Sig need to be tuned up quite a bit more than the M&P. That is just for the amout of use they get. Its a try before you buy range.
Personally I believe the more gadgets are on a gun the more can go wrong with the gun. The M&P does not have a whole lot of parts and is very easy to disassemble completely and clean and the sig is more like taking apart a 1911 but with a few more parts. If anything goes wrong with the S&W the factory has a 2-3 week turn around and it has a lifetime warranty. They pay for any shipping both ways and will give you a couple extra mags for the trouble. If they are not able to fix your gun you get a new one. The Sig, you need to make prior arrangements with the shipping, pay for it, and get your own insurance. you may be lucky to get you gun back in 3-4 months, even at that they may not have solved any problems, just given it a shot.
Whe you shake an M&P there is a little rattle but how often to sit there and shake the gun. There are only 4 connection point of the M&P ant that minimizes the chance of dirt getting in there and making the gun malfunction.
When you do more research on the Sig, be sure to check the ammo you can use with the gun, cast, +p, +p+ etc. be sure the chamber is fully supported like the S&W. I say this because if its anything like a Glock you'll be in deep doo doo if its not.
I am buying the M&P .45 FS next week for a side arm when hunting and HD. I have large hands and my girl has very small hands. the M&P will accomidate us both. I plan on buying the Apex trigger for it to bring the trigger down to 4 lbs and that will lessen also as the gun gets used. If you were to take the trigger assembly and the sear assem. apart on the M&P and polish everything up real good you will not have the "gritty" trigger. You can also send it back to S&W and have them do it for you at no charge. They will send you a couple free mags too.
If I were you i would think about it a little more. I agree with most of these guys when they say save your money and get the sig aswell. I would not sell the M&P untill you have the Sig and have used it alot. There is a huge market for the M&P used. if you sell it yourself or put in on consignment at a GS you will not have a problem selling it later. I saw one guy at the local range wanting to put the M&P on consignment and before he could agree to the terms of the GS another individual offered to buy it from him for alot more than he would have gotten if he let the GS sell it for him. i hear this happens quite a bit with the M&P's. I see Sigs all the time there on the consignment rack, they sit there for quite a while. Sig also charges $139.00 to have a new buyer send it in and get it reconditioned. I think that may be a down fall on sigs part.
 
My P220 is the ONLY semi I would have over a P226. I'm a 1911 guy, but the West German Sigs are what I would stake my life on. I'd rather have a big hole over more rounds. JMO
 
As many people have already said, the 226 is a fine firearm, but it is in a totally different price range. it seems like you should look into the all metal 3rd generation smiths 5906 or a 915 would do you well. Also they pop up used all the time for great deals in great shape. Good Luck
 
Neither the M&P full size or the 226 are great for a CCW due to their size. Also Sig quality has been hit and miss lately, bad enough that they won and then lost the Dutch Justice Department contract because they would not work to correct problems with the first guns delivered. They also lost the ATF handgun tender because of significant reliability issues. Granted both of these were with the Sig 250, but if Sig is not willing to do what is required for major law enforcement contracts what does they say about them. I like Sigs but the older ones seem to be much better made, right now the M&P is winning a lot of police business, this might not make them the best but they are well tested. If I were you I would trade in the M&P9 in for a M&P9c and maybe upgrade the trigger for CCW.

http://vuurwapenblog.com/2011/11/11/sig-continues-series-of-embarrassing-pistol-tender-failures/

This may explain the state of Sig quality today, more outsourcing of parts, less QA all for lowering prices. Bottom line is that they are not that bad, just not better than other makers, and you should never trust a self defense gun out of the box.

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=34219&page=2
 
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I don't have a 226, but if I find one I won't turn it down. It's on my list of guns to get.

Regarding your list of complaints of the M&P, there is a reason it has plastic where it does, and a reason the slide fits a bit more loosely. And for those reasons I like it even more. It's a jam-it-in-your-pocket gun that is made to fire and keep firing. Not that a Sig won't but look at how Glocks got so popular and they fit together like the milling machines are worn out or someone missed a decimal point in the blueprints.

If I want a show gun, I'll polish a 4506 or a Kimber Custom. They each have their place.

So my advice is keep the M&P and buy the 226 also. The way I read your post, you're still filling your first gun safe so you have plenty more to go yet... :D
 
If your only major gripe with your S&W is the trigger, put an Apex DCAEK in your M&P and see what you think. Also, as stated go rent a P226 and see what you really think. Some guns look good on papern but in pratical use just don't fit your hand or needs.

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The M&P and P226 are very different guns. Keep the M&P and buy a well-used P226 to see how you like one.

The idea of buying a 5906 is also sound. I have a Sig P226ST (all stainless) that is an extremely nice pistol, but it cost more than I paid for a 5906 AND a 4566.
 
I'd like to hear advice, recommendation, constructive criticism, and thoughts when comparing these two firearms. Is the P226 worth the price difference? Why or why not? I would especially like to hear opinions of people who own both or have extensive experience with both. Are my perceptions incorrect or misguided? All thoughtful input is VERY much appreciated. This is a long post and if I can get some long, deep responses I would really love it. Thank you!


By all means, get to some place where you can rent one, or better, borrow one from a friend, and shoot a 226. You will either like it better than your M&P9 or not, based on how well you can hit with it. That is what makes the difference between different models of similar type handguns. What can you do with it? Not how many odd features you can list and how those might work out for you.

If you can shoot the gun well, you can easily adapt to the features and manual-of-arms for that particular gun. There is no substitute for getting a hold of one and seeing if YOU like it (i.e., how well you can hit with it).
 
The Sig Sauer P226 is one of the finest pistols ever made. I love Sigs and have "a few" :) I also have a few S&W M&P's in 9mm and think they are the best of newer generation handguns on the market today. I think you should see if you can fondle and at least dry fire if not live fire a P226. They make a GREAT range / home defense firearm. I have over 5000 flawless rounds through one of my P226's and have never had a malfunction with any of my Sigs. I do really enjoy my M&P's outfitted with Apex Tactical parts as they really help smooth out the trigger.

Have to say I agree whole-heartedly with the above comments and could not say it better...Get the SIG....It is the Mercedes-Benz of handguns!
 
They are over $1,100. I must have been thinking of something else. This is silly.
I bought my Hi-Point originally because I heard Glock owner comparing the two. The Glock is a $600 gun and the Hi-Point is a $150 gun. I got the Hi-Point and am very happy with what I got for what I paid. The Sig 226 is not even in the same class. You have no buisness comparing the two. If you can afford to get the Sig, get the Sig be happy you got Sig. Keep the M&P, its a great gun to have when your newer Sig has to get sent in and never returned.
If you were at odds with trading in you CZ for the SIg or vice versa, thats one thing, but 2 guns not even close to eachother, com'on!
 

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