Defining a SHTF scenario

Living in the Central Oregon mountains, fire is our greatest concern. So we keep the following ready to go at a moments notice during fire season:
-$1000 cash and a spare 9mm semi with 5 magazines in the Suburban's ConsoleVault, two box of ammo in a back compartment, my carry 9mm and 4 mags will come along as well.
-two grab bags each, one for clothes and the other for Rx meds (10 days worth), personal kits, extra chargers for phones and tablets, extra glasses, covid masks, etc
-a wheeled filing cabinet with our important papers, passwords, insurance info, pink slips to vehicles and boat, backup files on thumb drives, etc
-two futons and sleeping bags
-propane stove, multiple lights, 10 gals water, hatchet, rope and cord, dog food for the mutt, extra batteries, etc
-a large box of protein bars, dried fruit and nuts, few other goodies

We never let our fuel tanks get below half full in either of our rigs, and we are signed up with the county fire watch for real time alerts and updates.
 
Last line in the book

Does anyone else remember the old Don Johnson movie "A Boy and his Dog"? And what the dog was good at?[/QUOTE]

Last line in the book, after a little cannibalism.

"do I know what love is, A boy loves his dog"
 
Decades ago I veered down the road of uncertainty and got involved with a group concerning survival. The problem as I saw it was that you end up with too many Chiefs and not enough Indians, the natives get restless and things boil over quickly. Trust being what it is and the thing that keeps the military working is that you need to rely on each other for your very survival, no questions asked. Human beings suck at loyalty, Ego gets in the way.
 
Kinman you are very astute. If one is going to do this sort of thing each member needs to plan separately with the same goal in mind. Trying to plan in advance is just going to lead to disagreement.
If things go south then it's time to pool resources and in that event people are less likely to have disagreements at least in the beginning.
When the shooting starts it will be easy to tell who's in charge because not everyone has the skill set to do that.
 
I have a fish pond with lots of catfish and bluegills, several acres for a good garden, lots of Birds, racoons, squirrels 'possum etc. My backyard adjoins about 25,000 acres of swamp full of all sorts of wildlife including delicious snakes and alligators. I agree, good teams will need to be created to survive.
Steve W
 
BTW, my second home, which is probably where I would go if I had any advance notice of a SHTF event, is located very close to a heavily flowing natural spring, so there wouldn't be any pure water availability problems there.

Well, unless somebody drops a deuce upstream on a regular basis . . .
 
Well, unless somebody drops a deuce upstream on a regular basis . . .

The heck with a regular basis,,
A neighbor had cattle get too close to the source of his spring for a couple days,,

The county said that had caused the contamination that was still in the water, 5 years later,

The couple had a new born that kept getting sick, they traced it to the spring water,,

$10K later a deep well was dug,, the water was good,, THEN,,
 
Ain't that the truth, Cajun Lawyer!

I worked Katrina as an LEO. The SHTF then.

The "underbelly" of New Orleans, the drug dealers landed in FEMA trailer parks moved here.
They were dealt with quickly and quietly. They found easier pickings in Houston.
Now, NO One wants to welcome anyone from NO.

I was in Baton Rouge at that time, no wonder. Baton Rouge has never been the same since. It's an armpit on a sweaty boxer now.
 
The heck with a regular basis,,
A neighbor had cattle get too close to the source of his spring for a couple days,,

The county said that had caused the contamination that was still in the water, 5 years later,

The couple had a new born that kept getting sick, they traced it to the spring water,,

$10K later a deep well was dug,, the water was good,, THEN,,
Beautiful, clear high mountain streams in New Mexico very often have sheep liver fluke contamination. NEVER eat watercress or drink from our streams!
 
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