Dirty Harry, "Magnum Force"

[hd28cw]

Hi Guys,
Currently watching Clint Eastwood wield his M29 in Magnum force, In one of the scenes one of the "dirty" motorcycle cops screws what appears to be a silencer on the end of a Colt Python......Is that even possible can you silence a revolve??? figured a lot of sound would come from the cylinder gap?

Just thought i'd stir some debate

lol

 

[Road Rat]

In Hollywood anything is possible.

But, no you can't really "silence" a revolver.

 

[P&R Fan]

I'm watching it too. It was repeated immediately.
Yeah, that definitely won't work with the B/C gap. It's a movie, they can do ANYTHING.
Other bloopers, when the pimp gets shot, the guy who tells Harry about it says he "emptied a whole clip into him".
Also, Harry says he shoots "light Specials, less recoil than a .357 Magnum with wadcutters". But watching him shoot, that sure looks like Magnum recoil to me!

We need more guys like Harry today.

Gotta go now, commercial is over.
Jim

 

[Double-O-Dave]

A revolver can actually be suppressed, not silenced like in the movies, but it isn't cheap, or easy. I've read several articles saying the old Nagant revolvers can be suppressed, but I don't know if it has actually been done. I've seen photos of a heavily modified, large bore (.44 Magnum) suppressed revolver that I believe was intended to be used by special ops types. I believe the revolver was a (DA) Ruger, and I think Knights Armory(?) was the manufacturer of the suppressor. I recall thinking at the time that a rifle would have been simpler, cheaper, easier, and probably an all around better choice as a platform than a revolver.

Regards,

Dave

 

[LVSteve]

The 1895 Nagant revolver was designed with a special recessed round and a cylinder that moved forward to close the gap as the hammer went back. The plan was to prevent gas escaping at the cylinder gap and reducing velocity. As a by-product it made it possible to fit a suppressor to the weapon. Word is the NKVD and the Chekists made frequent use of this feature.

 

[msinc]

Yep, in Hollywood anything goes. If I remember right didn't the sniper in the first Dirty Harry movie screw a 4 or 5 inch long by 1 inch diameter {or less} "silencer" on a 30-06 and it went pffft when fired???? Seen alot of M11-9's that never seem to run out of ammo in the movies too.

 

[Qball]

The 1895 Nagant revolver was designed with a special recessed round and a cylinder that moved forward to close the gap as the hammer went back. The plan was to prevent gas escaping at the cylinder gap and reducing velocity. As a by-product it made it possible to fit a suppressor to the weapon. Word is the NKVD and the Chekists made frequent use of this feature.

And this is how it works

1895 Nagant revolver with silencer. - YouTube

 

[cmort666]

I've seen photos of a heavily modified, large bore (.44 Magnum) suppressed revolver that I believe was intended to be used by special ops types. I believe the revolver was a (DA) Ruger, and I think Knights Armory(?) was the manufacturer of the suppressor.

During the Vietnam War, a specially modified S&W Model 29 was developed which used captive pistol ammunition to fire a charge of shot. The piston contained the gas (and sound) of the cartridge firing, thus suppressing the noise. They were used on a very limited trial basis by "tunnel rats" who needed a quiet firearm which wouldn't blind them with muzzle flash.

 

[Moonman]

Sure looked like he Pushed The End Of It Into The Barrel And Gave It A Twist To Lock.

Wouldn't the bullet blow it back out the barrel?

 

[Arik]

Nagants are about the only one that i know if that can be silenced

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[Alpo]

I wonder if anyone has ever tried, of if they just accept, as a "fact that everyone knows", that you can't silence a revolver.

I do know that my 6 1/2" Blackhawks are quieter than my 2 1/2" 19. 38 or 357 either one, the longer-barreled guns are quieter. This tells me that much sound is going down the barrel, and can be stopped by a can.

Yes, I am aware of the barrel/cylinder gap. But what I wish someone would do, just for the sake of experimentation, is get a 6" barreled 38 with a tight gap - like, maybe, 002 - and thread the end of the barrel for a good 9mm can. And then, using a dB meter, fire it both with and without the can, and prove just how much you can silence a revolver.

I know you can't get it to go "thoop thoop thoop", like the do on TV, but you can't make a 9 or a 45 go "thoop thoop thoop" either. What you can do is make it quieter, and make it not sound like a gunshot.

 

[bad2006z71]

I'm watching it too. It was repeated immediately.
Yeah, that definitely won't work with the B/C gap. It's a movie, they can do ANYTHING.
Other bloopers, when the pimp gets shot, the guy who tells Harry about it says he "emptied a whole clip into him".
Also, Harry says he shoots "light Specials, less recoil than a .357 Magnum with wadcutters". But watching him shoot, that sure looks like Magnum recoil to me!

We need more guys like Harry today.

Gotta go now, commercial is over.
Jim

Probably my favorite Dirty Harry movie.

If you watch one of the dvd or blu ray behind the scenes, the director or writer, i cant remember off the top of my head, says that is was a mistake in writing the script that Harry shoots light specials, instead of magnums. Something he wished he could redo.
PS. the Dirty Harry series looks really good on Blu-ray.

 

[P&R Fan]

I was quoting that from memory, when I watched it again he said a whole MAGAZINE, not clip. (At least he said it wrong, correctly)

That channel, G4, whatever that is, is going to have a Dirty Harry marathon on the 22nd. All of 'em in order.
Too bad I hafta work all day.
Jim

 

[sceva]

As I recall; he also said " Looks like he used a Magnum" as if you could tell from a bullet hole.

 

[semperfi71]

You guys are ruining one of my favorite movies.

Next thing ya'll are gonna say is that if a single shooter with a satchel charge and a sub-gun was to open up...in reality the satchel charge in the pool of water would have had a lessened effect (if there's no shrapnel) and not EVERYONE is going to stand around to be shot by a sub-gun. Especially "hardened gangsters".

Which by the way.........was there ever any "Italian/Sicilian" gangster types in San Fransciso? I thought all they had were liberals...as such..........

 

[Kinman]

You can't silence a revolver, all you can do is make them quieter and then nothing as quiet as a single shot or semi-auto. I have seen .22 caliber semi automatics with the can filled with crisco that made more noise with the receiver than the report of the firing. You could hear the clack of the reciever more than the muffled "fffft" of a subsonic crisco shot. I can submerge the suppressor of my HK USP Tactical in .45 in a bucket of water and it makes about as much noise as I can by stomping my foot on a pavement floor, I can stomp pretty loud but thats about as quiet as a subsonic heavy .45 round from a semi-auto pistol. Normally with a dry suppressor the amount of apparant quietness makes it comfortable to shoot without earplugs, in fact many pellet guns make a noise that can be heard as easily as a properly suppressed semi auto. When shooting at a hard target there is often more noise made by the target, a dull thud followed by a a clang.

 

[sipowicz]

The best way to silence a revolver among forum members is to put an internal lock on it.

 

[wuluf]

The best way to silence a revolver among forum members is to put an internal lock on it.

Sip, for the win!

 

[Qball]

I wonder if anyone has ever tried, of if they just accept, as a "fact that everyone knows", that you can't silence a revolver.

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No you can't. I tried to silence my model 17, didn't work i might ad
Escape through the cylinder gap was even worse with the silencer.

 

[Bello]

Umm don't you guys know stick a potato on the end of your revolver bamf silenced! LOL

Rob