Do GFCIs go bad?

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Do GFCIs go bad/get cranky with age? I have one here inside the house but on a South facing wall that has been tripping lately. Do they become heat sensitive? the temperatures here in Vegas spiked this week.

There is another GFCI outside on my patio that refuses to reset. Has the Vegas heat killed it or is it an indication of a problem?
 
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They do seem to go bad with age, especially if they are on a circuit that is heavily loaded like with a garage door on that same circuit.

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Yes. I needed to replace a GFCI receptacle in one of my bathrooms about three months ago. It apparently tripped on its own and could not be reset. It was at least 10 years old, possibly older. Not the easiest thing to replace unless you have a very deep switchbox. There are also GFCI circuit breakers available that go in your main house circuit breaker box. I have also needed to replace several conventional circuit breakers over the years.
 
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Oh dear. All I can say about the age of the GFCIs in this home is that they are all at least 8 years old. We moved here in 2016 and I've never replaced any. Time to dig out my AC mains probe and see which breaker these are on.
 
Most modern building codes require them! Every place you could come into contact with water, Think Bathrooms, kitchens, and outdoor fixtures/outlets. One condo complex dad built had a water faucet in the garage, making all the garage outlets on GFIs. The problem is many people like to put a refrigerator or freezer (or one of each) in their garage. GFI are not made to handle one let alone two major appliances! Around here you are allowed a separate appliance circuit in kitchens or other GFI situations if the are marked. When I set things like that up, I use a different color to indicate that and the tiny, preprinted tags.

One low quality build had 16 outlets on a GFI outlet in the guest bathroom!

Another had bathroom on three levels of the house on a single GFI outlet

The moron electrician that wired the kitchen at church, had every other outlet on separate GFI circuit breakers and unused outlets with no power. It took me a couple of church potlucks the understand what the problem was. I used different colored tags with the breaker number on every outlet. (Turns out there were actually 3 different breakers.) The dummy outlets were removed, and blank plates used to cover the boxes. I also have a small card with instructions on what to do if an outlet quits working on the kitchen bulletin board. We pretty much have that all worked out and seldom have a GFI pop now. Why didn't the electrician start with that? He told me a couple years later he saved about $4 on a $6000 job! As Bugs Bunny said: "What a maroon!"

Ivan
 
Wiring getting hot in the wall? That'll trip them.

I had 30 year old main breakers for apartments. The meter can faced the afternoon sun, and in August they would pop from the heat. In 1980 they were $110 by the time we sold it 2006, the were $340 The complex had 36 of that type. By the time we sold they all had been replaced once, some twice, and one had been 4 times! Took me about 2 hours on average, MUCH longer in the winter when the wire was stiff!

Ivan
 
The big problem is replacing a common receptacle with a GFCI. They are much thicker than a conventional receptacle and a shallow receptacle box will not have enough room, especially if the wiring is single strand and stiff. I have had to fabricate wood receptacle stand-off boxes to get enough room for everything to fit. It is considerable extra work if you need to do that.
 
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As a person that has done my fair share of electrical work in property I own, I note the biggest problems amateurs (like me) have is GFI and 3 way- 4way switches work!:cool:

I dabble in the simple stuff like replacing switches, outlets and timers.
My friend, and neighbor, wanted to have a timer installed. Sure thing I say, have done a few. I open the box and there were 6 or more circuits coming into it. :eek::eek: I closed the box and told him to call an electrician. :D
 
The problem with my present house is that there is no rhyme or reason to what circuit breaker controls which receptacles or lights. I do have a device called a "circuit detective" that is fairly accurate in determining what light or receptacles go to which circuit breaker,
 
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