Do these Guns fit the Defintion of a Snub?

[loeman]

I don't collect snubs but somehow I have a collection! Imagine that. I'm considering doing a group photograph of all my Smith and Wesson snubs to post here but I have three that some might question as a sunb. What do you think?

Model 36-1, J frame, Chief's Special with a 3 inch barrel

Two Pre Md 27s, N frame, with 3.5 inch barrels

 

[Rick_A]

Some folks mention that a true snub is 2-1/2 inches or less. I tend to agree with that.

 

[snubbyfan]

Under 3's a snub to me.

 

[Old cop]

I was raised on many of the noir detective movies of the late '40s & early '50s when all you saw were 2" Colts. When I started my career the first thing I did was buy a Colt Cobra 2" so I guess I agree that it has to be a two incher to qualify.

 

[Hapworth]

Been a few discussions about this before...and a couple of scraps, too.

There's no official definition, so no final answer. To me, it depends on the frame: for an N, 3.5" or less; a K, 2.5" or less; J, approximately 2".

 

[old bear]

I've always felt that anything 3" or under qualifies as a snub. I've never felt that an N frame anything qualifies as a snub. No matter how cool a N frame "cut-down" may be there is just to much bulk to a handy C/C revolver.

 

[Kaedan]

I tend to think anything 3" or under as snubnose. When you have barrel lengths in the 8" range, 3" is pretty snubby.

 

[xray97]

I can't believe that we're still talking about this. This is the 21st century people. The attitudes of blatant snubbists can no longer be tolerated! Any gun who feels it is a snub should be accepted as a snub.
Terms like j,k, and n-framed; 2, 2 1/2, 3, 3 1/2, 4, 5, 6, and 8 3/8" barreled; do nothing but cause pain for those "differently framed or barreled".
There is absolutely no reason that a 8 3/8" n-frame should be excluded from wearing an in-waist holster if that is where it feels comfortable. If it sees itself as a 2" j-frame - so be it.
Let's do away with the hate and strive for inclusion of all guns

 

[ISCS Yoda]

Ahhhh......Monsieur Le X-ray, your passion for equality touches me deeply......

One the other hand, I think that it cannot be denied that no J-frame ever made was not a snub nosed revolver, even at 3". Further, the same can be said for 2" and 2.5" barreled but larger revolvers - they're always snubbies, whether K, L, etc. The 3" barreled Model 629 also fits into the category of a snub nosed revolver.

That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.

Snub nosed and concealability in this context might not equate, however....

 

[Pizza Bob]

No matter how cool a N frame "cut-down" may be there is just to much bulk to a handy C/C revolver.

Depends on how much bulk the carrier has.

 

[b_san]

on the other hand, I think that it cannot be denied that no J-frame ever made was not a snub nosed revolver, even at 3".

What about the 5" 60-18's?

 

[raylan007]

Maybe you could reword your designation for those out there that can't give half an inch to "show your concealed carry collection" GEEEZE

 

[Cal44]

There is absolutely no reason that a 8 3/8" n-frame should be excluded from wearing an in-waist holster if that is where it feels comfortable.

Good that you mentioned that.

I need an ankle holster for my 12" 1858 Remington Buffalo snub.

Where can I get one?

 

[loeman]

Thanks guys for your replies. Sounds like this topic has been around the block a few times. However, I really appreciate your comments.

And to avoid any serious conflict and nasty comments, I'll probably photograph them all and call them my "Shorter Barreled S&W Revolvers". Actually IMO, when you look at them as a group, only one stands out as perhaps not belonging and that is the Md 36 with a 3 inch barrel. The 3 inch barrel on a J frame appears to be longer than it really is. On the other hand the big N frames look the part with 3.5 inch barrels. By the way, my "collection" includes one I frame, five J frames, one K frame and two N frames.

 

[Tom_R]

If it has a full length ejector rod, it is not a snubbie as far as I am concerned.

 

[g-dad]

What about the 5" 60-18's?

You beat me to it. I have a 60-18 and that 5" barrel is hard to hid in my jean pockets.

 

[g-dad]

PC Rant

I can't believe that we're still talking about this. This is the 21st century people. The attitudes of blatant snubbists can no longer be tolerated! Any gun who feels it is a snub should be accepted as a snub.
Terms like j,k, and n-framed; 2, 2 1/2, 3, 3 1/2, 4, 5, 6, and 8 3/8" barreled; do nothing but cause pain for those "differently framed or barreled".
There is absolutely no reason that a 8 3/8" n-frame should be excluded from wearing an in-waist holster if that is where it feels comfortable. If it sees itself as a 2" j-frame - so be it.
Let's do away with the hate and strive for inclusion of all guns

That is the only PC rant I've ever heard or read that made me laugh with it not at it.

 

[RobertJ.]

There's no official definition, so no final answer. To me, it depends on the frame: for an N, 3.5" or less; a K, 2.5" or less; J, approximately 2".

Exactly! It's all about proportion.

 

[SS57]

I can't believe that we're still talking about this. This is the 21st century people. The attitudes of blatant snubbists can no longer be tolerated! Any gun who feels it is a snub should be accepted as a snub.
Terms like j,k, and n-framed; 2, 2 1/2, 3, 3 1/2, 4, 5, 6, and 8 3/8" barreled; do nothing but cause pain for those "differently framed or barreled".
There is absolutely no reason that a 8 3/8" n-frame should be excluded from wearing an in-waist holster if that is where it feels comfortable. If it sees itself as a 2" j-frame - so be it.
Let's do away with the hate and strive for inclusion of all guns

That is too funny. I think a group hug is in order. I know I could use one.

 

[Lt JL]

a snub has to be a J, K, or D frame with a barrel no longer than 2". There is no such thing as a N frame snub, or a Colt OP snub, or a Python snub. Taurus and Rossi make snubs, but I consider them beneath true snubby contempt, and do not include them

 

[Peak53]

WHY ARE THERE NO PICS IN THIS THREAD?

You beat me to it. I have a 60-18 and that 5" barrel is hard to hid in my jean pockets.

 

[k22fan]

Good that you mentioned that.

I need an ankle holster for my 12" 1858 Remington Buffalo snub.

Where can I get one?

Red Wing Boot Store.

 

[RobertJ.]

a snub has to be a J, K, or D frame with a barrel no longer than 2". There is no such thing as a N frame snub, or a Colt OP snub, or a Python snub. Taurus and Rossi make snubs, but I consider them beneath true snubby contempt, and do not include them

How about...

Super Redhawk Snubby!

 

[YeshuaIsa53]

Model 15-3 snubbie.

 

[pharmer]

Anything that fits in an ankle holster is a snubbie. You might find one for your 3 1/2" 27 but you ain't running with that rig. Joe

 

[Beachblaster]

So what do you guys think is the best oil to run in my Ford F250? Hey just trying lighten things up a bit. What I have learned from this thread is that even if I cut 6 inches off of my 460 XVR's barrel it would not be considered a snubbie. And then there is the question of what I would be considered if I did it. Lots to think about.

 

[flundertaker]

2.5" barrel or less is a snub. 3"+ is midsize, 5" + is full size.

 

[DAinTX]

I'm with those who say:

2" in a J.
2 1/2" or less in a K.
3 1/2" in an N. (And I've questioned myself about this one).

It's about proportion to the frame for me, and I have always seen the above as the "snub" proportions, by frame.

 

[raylan007]

Is that a 5" barrel your packing or are you just happy to see me?

 

[Andrew2105]

Each to his own of course, (here I go off topic) I have always felt that adjustable sights on a 2-3 in barreled revolver are an affectation along with target grips, trigger shoes etc.