I never saw Matt Dillon or John Wayne eat spaghetti.
Do You Like Spaghetti Westerns?
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AJ
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Not a Spaghetti Western revolver......but a Pedersoli copy of an 1884 Colt Lightening slide action rifle Colt Lightning Carbine - Wikipedia Fun to shoot, and gets some attention at the range.
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.357magger
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.357magger
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Speaking of cowboys......here's a couple of holsters I've bought from Ebay recently to go with my growing collection of handguns. Shame there only replica pistols. Have just been given free another 3 pistols, early models together with a replica Colt 1855 ( Revolver Rifle). What a corker that is too.
Yes, you should stop thinking about moving to the United States and do it.
Not trying to be disrespectful to Great Britain...but it seems obvious from both your membership and two posts on this thread that you really do belong on this side of The Pond.
But you have to promise to learn to drive on the correct side of the roadways.
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Ivan the Butcher
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Another Italian gun manufacturer that was in the business a long time is Armi San Marcos.
From the late 60's to the early 80's there were about 10 makers in Italy. Some only made Western reproes for a year, others several years. The company name is often not on the gun but, the proof marks always tell the truth. I have about 10 Cab & Ball revolvers and I'm down to 8 cartridge revolvers from Italy.
My advice in general is avoid any reproduction with a brass frame! There are exceptions with Cap & Ball guns with original brass frames! But if the company couldn't handle soft steel for machining, their heat treating is very suspect!
Dry firing is common by the uneducated, so C&B nipples get smashed! Getting the correct metric thread pattern is sometimes a problem, but often the rest of the gun is in good shape. I keep every pattern I know of in 6's for just such an occasion!
If the inside of the barrel is pitted, FREE IS TOO EXPENSIVE! Unless you are making it a wall hanger.
Most 44 cal C&B will hold 40 grains of FFg Black Powder. Plan on accuracy being 18 to 25 grains! Walkers will hold over 55 grains and some up to 70, 40 grains have been the more accurate loads. Dragoons hold more and 1861 ARMYs but less than Walkers.
There are several diameters of 44 caliber round balls; .451, .454. and .457 are the most common. I only buy .457"! When they get seated in the cylinder they will get shaved to the proper diameter anyway! They may weigh 5 grains more and have a few thousandths more bearing surface, it won't matter unless you use a smokeless powder! They will probably be a hair more accurate. On the other hand, too small of bullet is never accurate!
NEVER allow there to be a gap between the powder and the ball!
ALWAYS have some form of lube over the ball (or lubed felt wads right below the ball, to prevent Chain Fire! and the lube softens the powder fouling. (I like Ox Yoke brand lubed felt wads. or Crisco for lube on cool days)
These guns were made to be shot, so enjoy yourself!
Ivan
From the late 60's to the early 80's there were about 10 makers in Italy. Some only made Western reproes for a year, others several years. The company name is often not on the gun but, the proof marks always tell the truth. I have about 10 Cab & Ball revolvers and I'm down to 8 cartridge revolvers from Italy.
My advice in general is avoid any reproduction with a brass frame! There are exceptions with Cap & Ball guns with original brass frames! But if the company couldn't handle soft steel for machining, their heat treating is very suspect!
Dry firing is common by the uneducated, so C&B nipples get smashed! Getting the correct metric thread pattern is sometimes a problem, but often the rest of the gun is in good shape. I keep every pattern I know of in 6's for just such an occasion!
If the inside of the barrel is pitted, FREE IS TOO EXPENSIVE! Unless you are making it a wall hanger.
Most 44 cal C&B will hold 40 grains of FFg Black Powder. Plan on accuracy being 18 to 25 grains! Walkers will hold over 55 grains and some up to 70, 40 grains have been the more accurate loads. Dragoons hold more and 1861 ARMYs but less than Walkers.
There are several diameters of 44 caliber round balls; .451, .454. and .457 are the most common. I only buy .457"! When they get seated in the cylinder they will get shaved to the proper diameter anyway! They may weigh 5 grains more and have a few thousandths more bearing surface, it won't matter unless you use a smokeless powder! They will probably be a hair more accurate. On the other hand, too small of bullet is never accurate!
NEVER allow there to be a gap between the powder and the ball!
ALWAYS have some form of lube over the ball (or lubed felt wads right below the ball, to prevent Chain Fire! and the lube softens the powder fouling. (I like Ox Yoke brand lubed felt wads. or Crisco for lube on cool days)
These guns were made to be shot, so enjoy yourself!
Ivan
jetjky
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For a long time I resisted the purchase of any of the "Spaghetti Westerns" as I called them. Reproductions by Uberti and Pietta (are there any other Italian makers?). Didn't really fit in with my collecting interests, weren't "original", I didn't SASS shoot, told myself a number of reasons.
But none of them were really good reasons.
So I was looking for something different than the pre war shooters I normally am drawn to, told myself I just wanted something for fun at the range. And I was sitting on a bunch of 45 Colt so...I wander into one of my favorite pawnshops and I didn't wander out with a Colt clone...I wandered out with a Remington clone.
Anyone else like Spaghetti Westerns? Have your own clone(s) to share? Revolvers? Rifles? Cowboy rigs? Whaddya ya got?
Huge fan of the Remingtons. I have a 44 BP remington and it is excellent. Sold a Colt to get it.
AJ
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Pretty rifle.
Thanks for sharing it.
P.S. Obviously not a revolver, but still a "Spaghetti Western".
Yes, it is a pretty rifle. The picture does not do the wood and color case hardening justice. The only rifle that my wife said I should buy, she thought it was pretty too.
All of my SASS guns are Spaghetti Western......the only execption is if I choose to use my grandfathers 1897 Winchester shotgun.
2 sets of 1873 Uberti .357 mag revolvers
2 sets of 44-40 1873 Uberti revolvers
2 sets of 1860 Reproduction Colt Cap and Ball revolvers
1 Uberti 1873 Rifle in 44-40
1 Uberti 1873 Rifle in .38 Spl.
1 Navy arms copy of an 1866 carbine in .38 spl.
So, you can see, I like them. Rarely give any problems....they just just keep on delivering form me.
Randy
2 sets of 1873 Uberti .357 mag revolvers
2 sets of 44-40 1873 Uberti revolvers
2 sets of 1860 Reproduction Colt Cap and Ball revolvers
1 Uberti 1873 Rifle in 44-40
1 Uberti 1873 Rifle in .38 Spl.
1 Navy arms copy of an 1866 carbine in .38 spl.
So, you can see, I like them. Rarely give any problems....they just just keep on delivering form me.
Randy
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.357magger
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Randy, you have your own "Lee Van Cleef" Arms Room of Spaghetti Westerns going on there.
Got any pics?
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.357magger
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Agreed, but it's one of my all time favorite Westerns too, no matter where it was made.
The scene where McBain's youngest comes out of the house to find father, brother, and sweet Maureen shot down by Frank's gunmen is just great filmmaking, Italian or not.
"What do you want to do about the kid Frank "?
"Well...now that you've called me by name..."
Grayfox
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I've always liked westerns and the guns they feature. Unfortunately, the traditional SAA plow handle grip just doesn't get along with my banged up old hands. 
I do have a Navy Arms/Uberti Schofield clone that I like. There's enough difference in the shape of the grip that it doesn't bang my knuckles like a SAA.
I've been considering the Remington clones for years and want to give one a try. Just haven't come across one for sale around here.
I do have a Navy Arms/Uberti Schofield clone that I like. There's enough difference in the shape of the grip that it doesn't bang my knuckles like a SAA.
I've been considering the Remington clones for years and want to give one a try. Just haven't come across one for sale around here.
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.357magger
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You mean the standard Italian dubbed "pocka-weeeeee" ricochet sound, or the weird Italian dubbed "clickita-clickita" cocking sound?
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