Documented Overpenetration?

[Out West]

Times were once that a fellow was worried about using "cop killer" hollow points. Now it seems, based upon what I read here and in gun publications, the opposite is true. Someone said earlier in this thread that a Prosecutor will use the facts as required to convince a jury. To me that says, if I use deadly force it better be an honest to goodness last resort. If that is the case, then even an inappropriate prosecution is worth the risk.

Of course, that is exactly what the instructors tell us in our CHL classes.

Out
West

 

[bitstream]

It doesn't look like this was over penetration, but a local deputy fired three, hit the suspect twice and had a flyer wing a woman looking out the window the suspect was standing in when he pointed his weapon at the deputy. Not bad shooting for a sudden incident.

BTW, the story cites the deputy fired from his "service revolver".. Journalist error or do some officers still carry revolvers?

Suspect shot by Houston deputy, 3 men charged after feud escalates - Breaking News - Macon.com

 

[oldman45]

It doesn't look like this was over penetration, but a local deputy fired three, hit the suspect twice and had a flyer wing a woman looking out the window the suspect was standing in when he pointed his weapon at the deputy. Not bad shooting for a sudden incident.

BTW, the story cites the deputy fired from his "service revolver".. Journalist error or do some officers still carry revolvers?

Suspect shot by Houston deputy, 3 men charged after feud escalates - Breaking News - Macon.com

Several departments across the US still carry revolvers. Why change? It only takes one shot to settle the issue.

 

[cmort666]

It only takes one shot to settle the issue.

Often the case, but often NOT the case too. I wouldn't bet my life on it. That doesn't stop me from carrying a revolver on a regular basis.

If the doctor in Connecticut had had a gun, and the opportunity and will to use it, he'd have needed more than one shot, even at one per customer. Those are odds I wouldn't play myself.

 

[WR Moore]

Use a frangible round. The only way you will get collateral damage is if you miss your intended target. They offer a wide assortment of frangible rounds these days.

Please define what YOU mean by "frangible". Most of the rounds I'm aware of currently being labeled as frangibile are intended to turn to dust upon impact with a hard surface such as concrete, steel etc. Glasers and the like are usually referred to as "pre-fragmented".

I've tried various types of "wonder bullets" over the years- a statistically significant number of Glasers included- and have been underwhelmed at their performance. I'm certainly not betting my life on the latest version.

 

[revolvergeek]

Here's a local case of .380 (presumably fmj ammo) having more penetration than needed: Marrero bar owner triggered fatal gunfight, detective said | NOLA.com

"Meanwhile, a .380-caliber bullet fired by one of the suspects passed through Wallace Gomez's body and struck Carmardelle, "

 

[cp1969]

So much for the lack of stopping power of the .380 FMJ--two killed with one shot.

 

[watchmanjimg]

So much for the lack of stopping power of the .380 FMJ--two killed with one shot.

I hear you, but then again the whole stopping power discussion doesn't focus on the eventual outcome. No doubt a lot of people die after being shot. The question is whether they're neutralized upon being shot, and though in this case it appears they were I'd still prefer a bit more than .380 FMJ.

 

[smith revolver cop]

As Mas Ayoob has stated as well as many other well known experienced instructors.......

"Every bullet has an attorney attached to it"

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I don't always agree with M.A., but he scores a 100% A+ with this quote!