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Had virtually the same experience with a ute in one of the less than desirable areas of town after having a medical procedure that hurt like heck. 20 yr old, 6'1" 240 tried to strong arm me at
A multi lane Cstore. Started clearing and he ran like a gazelle. He doesn't know how close he came to seeing whats on the other side. Don't mess with 70+ yr old combat marine. They will kill you!
 
A couple of thoughts about Post #84 above: First, you probably should have alerted the state police about this individual after you left. Next, I've thought about being attacked @ the urinal and have decided I'd turn around, mid stream, and pull my gun while peeing on the BG (we make a lot of car trips). Talk about the element of surprise . . . .
 
Please don't misunderstand, I intended no disrespect. Just a thought in the event you encounter another weirdo in the futhre.
 
Toyman said:
My wife and I went to a gun show late one afternoon and when we left it was dark. My wife wanted to stop at a grocery store so we did. I parked along the outside edge of the parking lot where the lighting was no the best.
As we exited the store I gave my wife the keys and I pushed the cart and surveyed the parking lot, all looked OK.
I wife pushed the button to open the rear hatch and as I got to the rear of the car a person stood up between the cars and asked "GOT ANY MONEY"
I pulled my Ruger LC9 and advised him in pleasant but business like tone to get the @##$@ away from me.
He understood and left the area post haste. He was in dirty clothes like a street person and may not have posed a problem but coming up out of the shadows late at night was not the best way to approach people.
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Why did you park along the edge where the lighting was not the best?
 
Just a bit ago...

...at approximately 1850 hours, EDT, I stopped at the local 'stop and rob' to procure a 30 pack. NO ONE in sight. Quite unusual.

Grabbed the 30, set it on the counter and announced 'anyone here?' No worries....seems the worker was stocking the cooler.

Yes, a bad idea for a solo worker; no I did NOT draw down.

Be safe.
 
Old cop said:
I stopped to gas up my car mid afternoon today when I saw a young guy walking across the lot watching me closely. No other cars or people were around (no station attendant in sight) and I kept an eye on his progress as he got closer. While I can't articulate it I believe he was sizing me up. I look like an easy mark, past 70 and handicapped. My 340PD was in my L/F pocket so I slid my hand on it trying to look casual. He gave me a wide berth but kept looking over his shoulder at me and checking to see if anyone else was watching us. Needing both hands to finish I shifted the gun under my shirt, appendix, with my back to him, and got back in the car. He was still looking at me as I drove away. Maybe I'm just a paranoid old retiree and nothing was going to go down, but I was really glad to be carrying. Lesson - If you can legally carry do so all the time, not selectively when you think you might need to.
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Yep. That's why it's called EVERY day carry (EDC) ;)
 
GaryS said:
Without knowing the NV self defense laws, I can't comment on whether what you did was legal or not. That aside, I think drawing a gun because a person spoke to you might be hard to defend if you were questioned.

Maybe not in NV, but in MA if I did that and the homeless person called 9-1-1 and complained, I'd likely lose my license to carry even if I wasn't charged.

Again, NV probably has a different standard, but I don't know what threat you could articulate that would support drawing a weapon.
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So, you would take the chance that nothing would happen in the same situation? That is just plain disregard for personal safety. If you carry, why? Sorry, if someone came at you, and being that close, you could have a knife in your ribs or on the ground being stomped before you could draw and fire.

A gun concealed on your body is not a magic talisman against danger. You must have the mentality and mind-set to be willing to use it.

Worry about the "what ifs" will reward you with a small piece of real estate garnished with a lovely granite stone.
 
ExcitableBoy said:
So, you would take the chance that nothing would happen in the same situation? That is just plain disregard for personal safety. If you carry, why? Sorry, if someone came at you, and being that close, you could have a knife in your ribs or on the ground being stomped before you could draw and fire.

A gun concealed on your body is not a magic talisman against danger. You must have the mentality and mind-set to be willing to use it.

Worry about the "what ifs" will reward you with a small piece of real estate garnished with a lovely granite stone.
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All true, but it sounds like GaryS has the presence of mind to draw when it's necessary. Here in MA, one complaint can and will cost you your license and all your guns, and you'll spend the rest of your days with nothing but unkind words and your fists to defend yourself and your loved ones. Holding onto a snubbie in a pocket is a comforting feeling when things look sketchy, but not Condition Red.
 
Good awareness.

I have also tried to keep aware of the "other guy" who works as a team with the guy approaching you. One gets your focus while the other comes up behind. I now take a quick glance over my shoulder while the 1st guy is still aways away to see if they are double teaming me.
 
zogger52 said:
Good awareness.

I have also tried to keep aware of the "other guy" who works as a team with the guy approaching you. One gets your focus while the other comes up behind. I now take a quick glance over my shoulder while the 1st guy is still aways away to see if they are double teaming me.
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Many years ago, we discussed this situation at length in a tactical class with Clint Smith at Thunder Ranch. It was concluded that bad guys oft come in twos, threes and even more at times. In that case Clint's advise was to shoot the bad guy with the shotgun first and then shoot the leader........ :-)
 
Much of the discussion is whether you should wait for the bad guy to actually make his move or draw your gun if you think he might be making his move shortly. The reasoning being that in some areas there could be legal ramifications of drawing before the BG has actually threatened you.

Obviously a tough call. But only the person living the situation (not the kibitzers) has the feel for what is actually happening at that moment. He might be wrong, in which case he will either get attacked by the BG or face possible legal issues. Which is "better"? IMHO, it is better to draw than to hesitate by contemplating possible "legal" issues. If you allow yourself (or your loved ones) to be harmed because you are worried about interpretation of laws then IMHO you are wrong.
 
A tough call but there's a trick I learned on the streets. I sneak my gun out and hide it behind my left (I'm a leftie) leg until I'm satisfied everything is okay, then sneak it back in the holster or pocket. I walked up to many cars and bad guys like this and they never knew.
 
After reading what you wrote I began considering this. In the last few months thousands of convicts were pardoned and released. Very interesting. I wonder how they will be able to support themselves on the outside. Some of these ex-convicts were violent criminals, drug dealers, burglars and drug dealers. This certainly double or triples the risks we face in our daily lives doesn't it?
 
zogger52 said:
Good awareness.

I have also tried to keep aware of the "other guy" who works as a team with the guy approaching you. One gets your focus while the other comes up behind. I now take a quick glance over my shoulder while the 1st guy is still aways away to see if they are double teaming me.
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An excellent point. They often work as a team. A couple a years ago we recall a man and his wife shooting two police officers in a restaurant in Las Vegas, then crossing the streat and entering Walmart. A 'good' samaritan CCW attempted to apprehend the husband and was shot by the wife, who was behind him.
 
Old cop said:
It's difficult to maintain situational awareness when I get out of the car and have to lean in to get my cane. That's when I'm most vunerable and I try to scan my environment, then listen to the inner voices that kept me alive during my 30 years on the street all other times. So far so good.
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Old cop...I know this post is over a month old, but I'm just reading this thread for the first time. Instead of getting out and leaning back in to get your cane, I think you should lead with the cane. Open the door, cane out with left hand, then stand up. This would prevent you from having to lean back in to grab it and also it would be "at the ready" if you were approached as you were getting out. You could keep your EDC "weak side", then switch after you were out.
 
Smoke said:
About two years after we moved I was asleep in our bedroom. I woke up and the only explanation I can come up with is I forgot we moved because I got up walked out into the hallway and was like "Where in THEEEEE HELLLLLL am I?" :eek:

Only ever happened one time in my life, very disorientating.
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I don't think you actually did wake up. ;)
 
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