Emphysema

RonJ

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Well Guys
After taking a pulmonary function test I may have emphysema.
I haven't talked to the doc yet but the tech who administered the test says it kinda looks that way.
If you have it or know anyone who has it can you let me know what to expect.
Glenn, if you are out there maybe you can chime in.
Thanks
 
If you smoke, Stop. Now. Period.

I have asthma, not emphesema , and it's bad enough.
You may require breathing treatments and an inhaler like Advair and an emergency inhaler like albuterol.

Ask your doctor and read about it Online.

Was COPD discussed?
 
Much depends on the severity of your symptoms before beginning treatment. Also, your history of breathing problems. Some folks need albuterol on a regular basis. Albuterol is known as a 'rescue inhaler,' for use when breathing becomes restricted, such as after a coughing spell or exposure to irritants in the air.

There are also maintenance inhalers, such as Advair, Spiriva and Symbicort. These are designed for daily use at regular intervals and make use of steroids to improve lung function. They can have noticeable side effects.

Be careful lest the lung doctor immediately prescribe the above maintenance drugs in their strongest form. My doctor has done this, IMHO, and I will discuss this at my next appointment. He has already been compelled to substitute Symbicort for Spiriva when Spiriva caused a worsening of my prostate condition.

Also, the doctor may have poor 'bedside manner' and immediately tell you that emphysema/COPD will rapidly worsen with time and is terminal. Do NOT allow the doctor to frighten you in this manner into over-medication. Stay on top of your condition and your meds.

I moved from the Northeast to the desert to avoid the cold and damp winter conditions who would regularly cause bronchitis and lung infections, including pneumonia. The downside is the presence of a very fine dust which can cause an allergic condition which mimics infection on windy days, of which there are many out here. This and ozone concentrations compel me to stay indoors at times.

Stop smoking and be wary of over-medication. There is much info online; let the doctor know you are 'up' on COPD. PM me if I can be of future help.

This is my personal experience over DECADES. At the risk of insult, I sincerely hope no one will write in and tell me I'm completely wrong about the above, the way they often do to me on gun and ammo topics...
 
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Breathing is overated! Actually I have COPD and take a daily inhaler. As stated above if you smoke..stop! It can be a real pain not having enough air but you can get through it. Hang in there.
 
My brother has had it for years and does just fine. Has a little trouble going up stairs but so do I and I don't have it. Keep as fit and active as you can.
 
I have both COPD, and Emphysema. I use Spriva daily and it is a BIG help. Once you have lung damage it will NEVER GET BETTER. It can be stopped where it is but your MMA days are over.
 
I have a measurable reduction in my lung capacity due to 30 years of smoking. It's what some doctors will call Emphysema. In my case I've quite smoking and my doctor has told me that in 5 to 7 years my lung capacity will recover to what is typical for that age. Basically, quit smoking and your lungs will heal to a point appropriate for your age.

However, every time I go in for a checkup I'm also questioned specifically about whether I get out of breath. Because right now I could be a candidate for medication if I had a doctor with a tendency to write scripts. Fact is I don't get out of breath because I'm an old fart who has learned to Pace himself. I may clear my sidewalks a bit slower than my neighbors because of this but I flat don't care, the walks still get done.

I would recommend that you look at the impact this is having on your daily life and what you enjoy doing. If you find that shortness of breath has become a problem then you should consider medication for this. However, if you can still walk the dog at a decent pace and it's not causing you any real issues I would avoid medication as long as possible.

As for the Smoking discussion, if you haven't quit already you need to quit right this minute. BTW, I tried all those quitting aids for years and years and didn't find that they were worth a plugged nickel. IMO the best way to quit is to do it Cold Turkey. The withdrawal effects only last a week to 10 days and after that it's simply a matter of not giving into the temptation to pick up "just one pack". Fortunately with the taxes now in place it's been pretty easy for me to remind myself that my not smoking anymore has enabled me to purchase two Ruger SR1911's, one Ruger Gunsite rifle, a complete reloading setup, and about 2000 bullets per month. Fact is that not spending 300 bucks a month on filthy cigarettes has enabled me to spend 300 bucks a month on other things.
 
Also, the doctor may have poor 'bedside manner' and immediately tell you that emphysema/COPD will rapidly worsen with time and is terminal. Do NOT allow the doctor to frighten you in this manner into over-medication. Stay on top of your condition and your meds.

Good advice. Just don't let them scare you into something you may not need yet. 25 years ago, after a string of test, I was told I had the onset of emphysema. Now here it is 25 years later and I have absolutely no problems breathing. Of course I can't run a mile anymore at my age (79). :D
 
I smoked from age fourteen to fifty-four, most of it two and a half to three packs a day. I'm going on twenty-two years without smoking. I quit cold turkey--it was shortly before the patch was released, but I couldn't see the sense of trying to kick an addictive drug by putting smaller quantities of it into my system. I'm a sober alcoholic, and for me "tapering off" is a meaningless concept.

The damage was extensive. I have severe emphysema, bronchial asthma and bronchiectasis--pretty much the whole COPD package. Four years and change ago I was told I had pulmonary fibrosis, which is invariably fatal, with an average survival time of 2.4 years.

The diagnosis was wrong. I recently learned that. Now I carry an albuterol rescue inhaler but seldom need it. I've been on Advair (can't take it, side effect problems), Symbicort and Spiriva. Currently I'm not using the last two. I get out of breath more easily; but my blood oxygen saturation levels aren't bad enough for Medicare to pay for oxygen therapy, nor do I feel I need it yet. I walk my dog four times a day, weather permitting. It's not aerobic walking because he has to sniff everything, but it seems to help. There are things I can't do anymore, and others I have to do more slowly, but life's not half bad as I approach the age of seventy-six.

All the lung problems may take me out eventually, but so could a heart attack or being struck down by a falling bowling ball.

The best thing, as others have said, is not to panic.

PM me if I can offer encouragement.
 
You have got me to thinking. I just had a Pulmonary function test, and the tech indicated one area of lung capacity problem. I have noticed a shortness of breath climbing stairs and walking up hills, but I'm about 35 lbs overweight and 72 years old. I quite cigarets in 1969, but I did puff a cigar or so until about 13 years ago. Will be meeting with my Dr. in a couple weeks to discuss the results.
 
To those who posted after me, thank you very much. You've managed to give me just as much info and encouragement as you have to the OP. On my next MD visit, I will discuss stopping or cutting back the meds.
 
I get to talk to the doc tomorrow. I can't walk comfortably for more than 50 feet. Seems that I'm more uncomfortable after I sit down after some stress.
I DID quit smoking about four years ago.
Thanks to everyone!
 
A little info if I may - Asthma, Emphysema, Chronic Bronchitis, Cystic Fibrosis and Bronchectisis are all COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease). In other words, if you are diagnosed with any of these forms of obstructive lung disease, you have COPD. Most people think that COPD restricts the ability to inhale but in fact, it
causes "airtrapping" in the lungs and restricts the ability to exhale. This is why people feel they can't take a breath in because the millions of tiny air "balloons" (alveoli inside the lungs where gas exchange takes place) are overinflated. Some people deal with excessive secretions with COPD while others it isn't so much of a problem. The other side of the coin from obstructive COPD is restrictive diseases such as black lung, pulmonary fibrosis, sarcoidosis or a tumor in the airways. Restrictive diseases limit the patient's ability to expand the lungs on inspiration. Then there are the poor people that suffer from both conditions at the same time.

Albuterol, Atrovent, and Xopenex are the three top medications used in COPD and are sometimes known as "rescue medications" because they offer quick results to relax the smooth muscles in the airways. Medications such as Spiriva, Advair, Symbicort are all medications used when long term results are the goal and some of these also offer steroidal benefits. People who deal with excessive and thick secretions can also mix Mucomyst in with their bronchodilator to help them cough them out more easily. None of these drugs however, will help those that suffer from restrictive type diseases.

A PFT (Pulmonary Function Test) is usually administered in two parts. Peak flows are measured before any bronchodilator medication is given to measure the extent of the obstruction. It is also repeated a second time after a bronchodilator is administered to measure how well a patient responds to the medication. There is also a part of the test that measures the DLCO to find out how badly the alveloi have been compromised. This is the area in the lungs where the gas is exchanged - CO2 returning to the lungs for exhalation and O2 crossing over into the capillaries for use by the body. The ONLY way to tell how well all this is working is to have an arterial blood gas drawn (ABG). Because COPD attacks this area of the lung, people suffering from it, especially those with emphysema, will begin to show lower than normal O2 levels and higher than normal CO2 levels in their arterial blood supply.

COPD is not reversable and can't be stopped but, its progression can be slowed if the patient takes steps to help themselves. It is in fact slow to show its ugly side and also slowly progresses. If the patient smokes, they of course need to stop immediately - easier said than done though. Proper breathing techniques should be learned and used such as pursed lip breathing and extended exhalations when performing tasks that usually make them short of breath. Pursing ones lips adds positive pressure to the alveoli (which holds them open a little longer) combined with extended exhalations = less airtrapping and more oxygen getting into the blood.

Hope this helps a little "RonJ". My email address is spicks75 at comcast dot net if you want to talk in a more private setting. I know its scary but its also very possible to live with.
 
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I was just in the hospital yesterday for a bunch of tests. I talked to a couple techs about their thoughts on my problems. My advice is talk to your doctor only.

Not good advice. Most "techs" as you refer to them, are actually registered respiratory therapists (RRT) as I am. Most RRTs can run rings around most family and internal medicine physicians when it comes to proper diagnosis and treatment of lung diseases. Most physicians should first refer their patient to a good pulmonologist that specializes in lung disease. If your physician is a good physician and realizes you need more than they can offer, they should normally send you to a respiratory therapist for education and pulmonary rehabilitation. There's way too many family and internal medicine physicians out there that don't have a clue on how to properly treat patients suffering from lung disease, period!
 
PA Reb,
Thanks for the expert advice. Some of these replys scare me a little and some are reassuring.
Right now it seems that my days at the range are over. If I end up on portable oxygen maybe I can shoot if I leave the oxygen in the car and bring someone to hang targets for me. :)
 
I have it - Emphysema.
My Dr started me on an inhaler but I wound up in the heart section of the emergency room after a few days - Turns out that some inhalers and some people don't get along well....
So now I take a little pill every morning (daliresp) and that seems to be doing the trick. I do carry an inhaler for *emergencies* but I hate that stuff. It's like instant nervous breakdown - Super speed, so to speak.

OTOH - Now that I'm taking the pills I can do about anything I want to.
I quit smoking (14yrs-59) a few years ago. The smokes seem to be the common thread to these problems -- Who'd-a guessed?
 
pareb- exactly right on all points. I have had copd since 1994 and am still being treated. can't do as much as I used to, but try to make the best of every good day. some days are not as good as others as you know. ronj- good luck to you and if your dr. isn't one or hasn't suggested a pulmonologist, then suggest it to him. you will need one at some point, even if not right now. feel free to pm me if I can be any help. not a dr. but well informed on this and can tell what has worked for me and what hasn't
 
PA Reb: You've provided more information than several lung doctors I've consulted over the past decade. My present guy had me immediately on the strongest Advair and Symbicort strengths. Previously Spiriva which affected another condition. My voice is constantly hoarse and my lungs feel at times like a razor blade is scraping the insides. Gotta believe he's overdoing it: he knows I never need the albuterol and I have no problem doing anything except work. So I stopped working...

Thanks again. Stay safe, partner.

Kaaskop49
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PA Reb: You've provided more information than several lung doctors I've consulted over the past decade. My present guy had me immediately on the strongest Advair and Symbicort strengths. Previously Spiriva which affected another condition. My voice is constantly hoarse and my lungs feel at times like a razor blade is scraping the insides. Gotta believe he's overdoing it: he knows I never need the albuterol and I have no problem doing anything except work. So I stopped working...

Thanks again. Stay safe, partner.

Kaaskop49
Shield # 5103

Thanks for the compliment sir - I appreciate that!

Advair is a great steroid that also contains a medication that has bronchodilatory effects. It also has a few drawbacks such as causing thrush and, as you mentioned, hoarseness. I don't know if you've been told or not but ALWAYS rinse Advair off of your gums (to avoid thrush) when you take it. Most people "rinse and spit" with regular water but some use a good mouthwash and try to gargle it a little deeper in their throats. This may help with your hoarseness.

I pray things continue to go well for you.

Best regards!
 
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