Ending a fleabay auction early (trade offered)....

[G-Mac]

I have an old Husqvarna dirt bike for sale on ebay.

The auction hit my reserve price.

One guy contacted me through the ebay system...he will trade me a like-new 2007 Honda 300EX 4-wheeler even for the bike.

He'll even drive from Tennessee to New York to do the swap.

I guess I can end an auction early, with no restrictions, as long as there's at least 12 hours left.

The 4-wheeler is worth a lot more than what the bike will probably sell for...not that I was looking for a 4-wheeler.

I'm tempted to end the auction, but hesitant because I've never done that before.

What do y'all think?

 

[Super38]

Something sounds a little fishy to me. Not to knock on your bike, but if something sounds too good.....

 

[Riccur]

As I understand it, if the auction is at your reserve then you are not allowed to end it. If it is still below then you are ok.

I would also caution against this deal, good chance you will get stiffed and end up re-listing the bike.

 

[J. Galt]

You can end it early, it up to you. There are no restrictions if the auction has over 12 hours to run. Have you talked to the owner of the four wheeler in person? If he sounds trustworthy why not go for it? You can always relist your bike later.

 

[G-Mac]

Originally posted by J. Galt:Have you talked to the owner of the four wheeler in person?

J. Galt,

Not yet...I told him to call me or send me his phone number.

Auction ends tomorrow.

 

[rbert0005]

If it were me, and someone had bid on it I would honor the auction.

People have bid on the item in good faith expecting the auction to be real. I would go thru with the auction.

There are plenty of 4 wheelers out there.

Bob

 

[G-Mac]

Originally posted by rbert0005eople have bid on the item in good faith expecting the auction to be real.

That works both ways.

I did let the auction run its course...ended this morning.

The high bidder contacted me before the end of the auction and asked me to delete his bid...

...said his wife would be mad if he bought a dirt bike.

I didn't delete his bid...I figured somebody would outbid him...nobody did.

Now I'm stuck paying $34.00 listing fee plus $100.00 final value fee.

If I make a "Second Chance Offer" to the next highest bidder,and he accepts, I'll have to pay another $100.00 final value fee.

If I had deleted the guys bid, I'd only be out the listing fees.

I took a chance and lost...I left his bid in, knowing he would not purchase, on the chance that somebody would bid higher.

The guy that wanted to trade the 4-wheeler hasn't got back to me either. I told him yesterday, on the phone, that I would do the trade with him if he was the high bidder at the close of auction. He said he would bid, he didn't.

Chalk this one up to experience.

 

[handejector]

Now I'm stuck paying $34.00 listing fee plus $100.00 final value fee.

If I make a "Second Chance Offer" to the next highest bidder,and he accepts, I'll have to pay another $100.00 final value fee.

Incorrect.
If the bidder reneges, you can eventually get credit for the FVF. ebay explains the process well. Just find the "problem with a bidder page", and follow the steps in order.
You can relist it WITHOUT paying the listing fees again.

If you make the second chance offer, contact, or check for the exact process on ebay first- I have never done it. They will only charge ONE FVF on the auction.

 

[G-Mac]

Lee,

I think I'd have to fill out a non-paying bidder report?

I don't want this to negatively effect the winning bidder...I had the option of deleting his bid (he asked me too) and chose not too.

He was the only guy that hit my reserve price...if I deleted his bid, it would have went down almost $300 and below the reserve.

There were 54 "watchers"...I mistakenly assumed one of them would bid.

If I can get a credit for the $100 without hurting this guy I would...otherwise I figured that I took a chance and lost.

 

[badam0112]

I don't believe you can leave negative feedback for buyers anymore.

 

[J. Galt]

Fill out the non-paying bidder report! There is no way you should be out any money for this. The bidder could have withdrawn his own bid if he wanted to.

 

[handejector]

I don't think the non-paying bidder strike is mandatory.
I THINK (been a few months) you have the option on the form, among several, of saying you mutually agreed not to complete the sale. If nothing else, they offer the option that he "returned" it.
Also, if none of the options suit you, simply email them, explain that you mutually called off the sale.
Either way, email him in advance with a heads up to respond with the same reason.

I know we all hate ebay for one reason or another, but I have to say- they are GREAT at what they do!
Their software is the best in the world.
It is probably the best run, most efficient machine in the world when you get used to it.

 

[Gov't Cheese]

It is up to the bidder to cancel his own bid if he makes a mistake. This guy just changed his mind. Contact him and see if he will pay the Ebay fees. If he does, you're even. If he doesn't, file a non-paying bidder claim with Ebay and get your fees refunded.

 

[truckemup97]

On the trade, be careful. Many states still don't title off road bikes or four wheelers. They are frequently stolen. If you do the trade, make sure he really owns it.

 

[G-Mac]

Originally posted by Gov't Cheese:
It is up to the bidder to cancel his own bid if he makes a mistake. This guy just changed his mind. Contact him and see if he will pay the Ebay fees. If he does, you're even. If he doesn't, file a non-paying bidder claim with Ebay and get your fees refunded.

Cheese,

He offered to PayPal me the listing fee (about $34.00) but not the final value fee of $100.00. I e-mailed him and told him I was going to have to do a non-paying bidder report in order to get credited for the $100.00.

truckemup,

The guy with the 4-wheeler sorta disappeared. I left him a message earlier today and he doesn't seem to be getting back to me.

 

[pred]

Tell us about the Husky, Or email me some info.
Peter

 

[handejector]

cancelling a bid on ebay has to follow certain guidelines. You can't just cancel a bid if you change your mind.

Here is what ebay says:

Retracting or canceling a bid
In this article
Under what conditions can I retract a bid?
How long do I have to retract a bid?
What if I can't retract a bid?
The fine print



As a general rule, you can't retract or cancel a bid. Once you place a bid, you agree to pay for the item if you're the winning bidder. However, honest mistakes sometimes occur. Review the conditions and time restrictions and if you feel you have a valid reason for retracting a bid, fill out a Bid Retraction form. To retract a best offer, use the Best Offer Cancellation form.

Under what conditions can I retract a bid?
Whether you can retract a bid depends on the circumstances and timing of the bid. You can retract a bid for the following reasons:

You accidentally entered the wrong bid amount due to a typographical error. For instance, you bid $99.50 instead of $9.95. If this occurs, you must reenter the correct bid amount immediately after you retract your bid. Changing your mind is not a typographical error.

The item's description changed significantly after you entered your last bid. For instance, the seller updated details about the item's features or condition.

You can't reach the seller by telephone or email.


How long do I have to retract a bid?
If you meet any of the above conditions, consult the following table to determine if you meet the time restrictions for retracting the bid.



Time restrictions for retracting a bid:
Auction ending time-

Auction ends in more than 12 hours:
Retraction allowed? Yes

Result- When you retract the bid, we remove all bids you placed on the item. If you are correcting a bidding error, you must bid again.



Auction ends in less than 12 hours:
Retraction allowed? Yes, but only if you retract the bid within one hour of placing it

Result- When you retract the bid, we remove only your most recent bid. Bids you placed prior to the last 12 hours of the listing are not removed.




What if I can't retract a bid?
If you can't retract a bid, you can contact the seller to request that your bid be canceled. The decision to cancel a bid is up to the seller.


The fine print
Please remember that every bid is binding, unless the item is listed in a category covered by the Non-Binding Bid policy or the sale is prohibited by law or by our User Agreement. Bidding on multiple identical items should be done only if you intend to buy all of the items.

Your bids affect how other users bid for an item and the item's final selling price. We carefully investigate all bid retractions to determine whether they are appropriate and conform to the rules for buyers. Abuse of bid retractions can result in the suspension of your account. In addition, your total number of bid retractions in the past 12 months is displayed in your Feedback Profile.

Bids retracted within the last 24 hours of a listing can be viewed as an example of shill bidding, which is a serious violation of eBay policy.

You cannot retract a purchase made through a Buy It Now listing. Once you confirm your purchase, you are obligated to pay the seller.

 

[G-Mac]

Thanks Lee. I'm not going to eat the hundred bucks. I'll submit a non-paying bidder report. I also found out that whether or not he receives a non-paying bidder strike is up to the seller.

pred,

It's a 1979 CR-390. Needs some sorting out, but very good original condition, for a thirty year old MX bike.

 

[Jeb Stonewall]

I wonder if the guy that wanted to make the trade was in cohoots with the guy that tried to back out of the bid.

 

[G-Mac]

Originally posted by Jeb Stonewall:
I wonder if the guy that wanted to make the trade was in cohoots with the guy that tried to back out of the bid.

Good point Jeb, that's a real possibility.

ebay guidelines say to wait seven days before filing a non-paying bidder report.