engaging the active shooter

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engaging the active shooter.

I got this as part of an email today from Gabe Suarez.
(I am well aware of Mr. Suarez’s reputation and detractors on the internet – please focus on his message, and leave character-opinions out of any replies.)


As it pertains to the tactical response of the lone armed-citizen when confronted with an active shooter, I find it hard to disagree with one word of Mr. Suarez’s post.



Napoleon once said that a wise man learns from the mistakes of others. We can learn a great deal from what went wrong here can't we?

Here are some points for you to consider.

1). A pistol will win against a rifle IF the pistolero kills the rifleman before the rifleman sees him. Much of this has to do with tactics, but that should be part of your skill set.

2). If the pistolero fails to drop the rifleman due to an inoperative pistol, a miss, or insufficient damage caused by too few pistol rounds, the rifleman will probably kill the pistolero.

3). The surest way to stop a man in his tracks (with some permanence) is with a shot to the head delivered at close range. Some folks dislike teaching head shots. I require them.

4). Verbalizing or challenging, as in "Halt - Drop The Gun" is not a good idea. In fact, its virtual suicide in a situation like this. You cannot yell and shoot well at the same time, and yelling may alert the bad guy to your location. There is evidence that this occurred in Tacoma.

5). You verbalize and challenge ONLY when you are not certain of what is going on and then ONLY from behind solid cover (if the adversary is armed with a rifle, few things qualify as cover). If you have enough to justify shooting, then shut your trap and work the trigger.

6). There is a great deal of discussions on Defensive Shooting. Shooting in a case of this magnitude is only defensive in concept. It is pro-active and aggressive deliberate and premeditated shooting.

7). Although I like and teach point shooting (in its context), pro-active shooting like this requires traditional marksmanship. Be deliberate! Watch your front sight and press carefully and repeatedly (with your mouth shut).

8). Train with photographic targets and do force on force training. Get used to the idea that you carry your gun to potentially shoot at a human attacker. The more you get comfortable with this the easier it will be. Tommy Lee Jones' character in the movie, The Hunted, told his students that when you can kill in your mind, the physical part is easy. He's right.

9). Consider that under some circumstances you may have to make do with a knife. I'm not saying that you will attack a rifle man with your Spyderco at 50 yards, but that in the event that he is within arm's reach (which was the case with several of the Tacoma hostages) your knife may be the only thing between you and being killed. So learn how to kill with your knife.

10). Last, consider that there may be a reason why God (or fate if you wish) put you, armed and trained, at that very spot and place in time, with the ability to save innocents. This is the life-giving sword (or gun in this context) that some ancient warriors discussed in their writings.
 
The man said it right!
One thing I'd like to address though is the "Good Guy Mentality".
We've all been inundated by the various TV/movies were the good guy doesn't shoot first, always issues some sort of challenge, never shoot the baddie in the back and so on.
Well this is reality not Kodachrome! If you are put in this situation and have decided to do something, then you fight dirty!
If you have the angle take the shot! Sneaking up behind the shooter and placing two to the base of the skull or ear cannal, will have the desired effect. Train for a failure to stop drill, practice the head shot, look at your target like a cat scan!
Taking a life is never easy, but saving others is more important! And your time spent on the range, will pay off. Force on force training is good, but remember you might be the only one there with the means to stop the shooter! So be sneaky, and resourceful, and use the brain! Dale
 
I'd hate to speculate on my chances w/my 442 going up against someone carrying a .223, but there is little here I can argue with. That said I have no idea who Mr. Saurez is and I have "seen the elephant" during my LEO career.
 
Here are some points for you to consider.

1). A pistol will win against a rifle IF the pistolero kills the rifleman before the rifleman sees him. Much of this has to do with tactics, but that should be part of your skill set.

2). If the pistolero fails to drop the rifleman due to an inoperative pistol, a miss, or insufficient damage caused by too few pistol rounds, the rifleman will probably kill the pistolero.

3). The surest way to stop a man in his tracks (with some permanence) is with a shot to the head delivered at close range. Some folks dislike teaching head shots. I require them.

Now this is some very profound stuff. You mean I could teach a class and get paid for it by teaching this??:rolleyes:;)
 
Verbalizing or challenging, as in "Halt - Drop The Gun" is not a good idea. In fact, its virtual suicide in a situation like this. You cannot yell and shoot well at the same time, and yelling may alert the bad guy to your location. There is evidence that this occurred in Tacoma.
Once somebody starts shooting innocent people, especially kids, the time for talk is over.

There'll be plenty of time for talk after the threat is neutralized.
 
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Suarez also "saw the elephant" in his days as a cop.

If I remember right it (one?) was a low light event on a California beach.
 
All of the points in the original post are valid. As Old Cop said:
"That said, I have no idea who Mr. Saurez is and I have "seen the elephant" during my LEO career. " BTDT too.

But, of all of Mr. Suarez's points this is primary:
"Get used to the idea that you carry your gun to potentially shoot at a human attacker. The more you get comfortable with this the easier it will be." If you cannot get your mind around this most basic of all concepts (Note, I said "basic", not "simplest") then you should not be carrying a gun.
 
I can easily agree with the points he makes.

One thing about point 8, the violent video games that are out there today do just that. They train the mind and make the idea of killing comfortable. They also take the humanity out of the picture.
 
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