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I just recently purchased a 15-22 for my wife so she could come out shooting with me and was thinking about putting a red dot on there. But which one? Any help would be great!
 
Personally I'd have a hard time spending the same or more than the rifle cost on a red dot, especially when the effective range of .22 is considered. Quite a few people are using the Bushnell TRS-25. I got one a month or so back and really like it. Less than $100.00, large range of brightness settings, reliable...and it's light. If I had a real AR I'm sure I'd end up putting something more expensive on it.
 
Vortex has a nice red dot...I got an EOTECH on my AR but wouldn't spend $400+ to put one on my 15-22
 
Another vote for the Bushnell TRS-25. That is what we have on my son's rifle. On my .22lr AR, I have a Bushnell Trophy Multi-Reticle red dot that I picked up from the Cabela's bargain cave for $40.

Primary Arms also offers several $100 range red dots that are popular as well.
 
Mine wears a Vortex Strike Fire. It has also worn the TRS-25 and worked well. When I put a Leupold 3 X 9 on the MP 15, the Vortex moved to the 15-22. Being an "Old Guy", I am going to try the TRS on a 686, getting harder every day to see the target and open sights.:(
 
Those were my thoughts as well the expense doesn't seem to outweigh the benefit. I have two other ARs a colt crx-16 and a bushmaster m4 I mounted nikon p223 scopes on them and love them.
 
Primary Arms Micro, Vortex Sparc, the Bushnell mentioned above are probably the most popular mid range red dots. My Daniel Defense M4 and M&P 15-22 both sport a Sparc on top, like the 2 moa dot. Also have a Vortex 3x magnifier that gets used on occasion. My brother just picked up a Redfield Counterstrike, clear glass, sharp 4moa dot and the laser is nifty but its a little heavy and if you're running a front sight the laser is useless because it runs below the optic down the center of the rail. It barley clears the mount on his offset irons.
 
I have a TRS-25, but I just put a Burris Fast Fire III on my M&P 22 MOE and it has worked well. A little more money, but personally, I think it is worth the diff.
 
I wish to start out with the acknowledgement that I am new to the sport (< 5 years) and learning more every day. That said, I'm also a bit OCD, frugal, ............

This particular site is on sale for $29.99 and periodically will be $24.99. I put one on my 15-22 as part of my ongoing education and like it.

I like quality goods and I don't mind spending for the best when I feel I need the best. I also am not afraid of value price point items. Just my 2 cents.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Center-Point8482-Tactical-Open-Reflex-Sight/1412024.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch%2F%3FN%3D5102693%26Ne%3D5102693%26Ns%3DMIN_SALE_PRICE%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dreddot%26Ntx%3Dmode%252Bmatchallpartial%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts%26WTz_st%3DSearchRefinements%26form_state%3DsearchForm%26search%3Dreddot%26searchTypeByFilter%3DAllProducts&Ntt=reddot&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products
 
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Ar's and optics

Since the OP also has 223 Ar's & he could use the red dot sights on them as well, I will offer this....I instruct professionally and the AR is one of the platforms that I teach. I use four different optic's on mine - depending on what it is I am doing. I use the Aimpoint Micro T-1, the Eo Tech 552 for my red dots and an ACOG and a variable power tac scope. All of them have throw lever bases. I also have a purpose built 22rf AR that is identical to my "working" M-4's....I swap the two red dots from 22 to 223, 6.8, 458 Socom & 50 Beowulf as needed. Both the T-1 and the EO's are the " gold standard" in the tactical arena, and are "best of breed" in my book. If you want a red dot solely for the 22rf, then one of the less expensive options will probably suffice.
 
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I have had a few red dots and all have worked just fine but once I put an Eotech on it its never come off. Yea its pricy but it does the job I think for me better than anything else I have tried.
 
Thank you for all the advice this is my first time posting to this forum and I am truly impressed with all the feedback given. I guess I will leave it up to her since it is her gun but I think I am gonna get the eotech 512 to mount on on my bushmaster.
 
i wouldn't say that the 552 or 512 are the 'gold standard' as i have both and the EXPS models are far better in my book although they are all great and i'm an EO fan, not fan boy.
i have an EO, T1, S&B Short Dots, Weaver superslam 1.1-4 all FFP's and most are dedicated to a certain rifle although they are switchable with minimal POA/POI shift.
I had a Strike Fire bright dot that i liked well enough, but it got sold with the rifle i was selling. i would not discount it as a great scope for the 15-22, cheap enough, just get the 'Bright' not the red/green as they wash out in the sun where the 'Bright' does not.
i'm not an ACOG or Leupold fan, just because. anyway the stuff from PA is good, but i would not go any cheaper. just my .03 cents!
 
I have an EOTech on my main rifle and like it a lot, would I spend an other $400.00 or so to put one on my 15-22 "most definitely", I spent a lot of trigger time with my 15-22 and to make an easy transition what is the logical thing to do (use the same optic). But only if you are using it for training for less expensive alternative. If is only a plinking a less expensive option I'd just fine.
 
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Add up all the money you have spent on optics before getting an Eotech and I bet for most it adds up more than what the Eotech cost. In the long run if you just go with the Eotech it will actually save you money.
 
you can find the 511's on sale pretty cheap sometimes, they take AA batts, but the newer EXPS models take up less real estate on the upper, are lighter and take a CR123 batt. controls are easier also IMO. a little more expensive than the latter, but IMO again, much better, and the above post is correct if you look at all your optics and the ones in the parts box that didn't fit/work for some reason!
 
I like the light weight of the 1522. The older larger EOTech designs are 3/4 pound.
 
roadkill45 said:
and the above post is correct if you look at all your optics and the ones in the parts box that didn't fit/work for some reason!
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If you go with the suggestions on the TRS-25, or Primary Arms red dots, not working or not fitting isn't an issue. Thousands of users have them on AR's, from .22lr up. I wouldn't spend that much for a non-magnified optic for a 15-22.
 
The optics Cypher mentioned are worth considering without much risk of unit failure. I've had a Primary Arms MicroDot for about four years. On the other hand, if you buy some of those EOTech clones or the tacticool death-ray zombie spinning 10 different reticles and 5 colors... laser, flashlight, red dot combos... there is no telling what junk you'll end up with.

There's always debate about dime store vs top shelf optcs. Sometimes its tough to justify a $500 or $600 red dot optic for the 1522, but when you buy the best they retain a fair amount of their original purchase price and you get to enjoy the use of a top shelf optic. Buy a dime store optic and they typically aren't worth enough to bother selling unless it is near new. I've got both Primary Arms and Aimpoint... there's a good case to be made for both.
 
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You can buy knockoff Eotechs for under $40. They will not withstand the recoil of a AR, but I have had success on my 15-22. I have the real thing on my 15T and the knockoff has the same sight picture and works pretty good. There is a little ghosting, but not bad and it is not quite as bright. For the cost I am happy though.


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Fakeotechs do work....have 3 on different 22s. Have 2 512s also. Also have a few Primary Arms micros as well. Also found 2 N cell operated Bushnell holo sights that look similar to eotechs on -bay. Take your time look around. Hope ya get it right the first time :). I have swapped sights so many times its not funny. Except for duty guns. They have and will continue to have the 512.
 
smokindog said:
I wish to start out with the acknowledgement that I am new to the sport (< 5 years) and learning more every day. That said, I'm also a bit OCD, frugal, ............

This particular site is on sale for $29.99 and periodically will be $24.99. I put one on my 15-22 as part of my ongoing education and like it.

I like quality goods and I don't mind spending for the best when I feel I need the best. I also am not afraid of value price point items. Just my 2 cents.

Center Point™ Tactical Open Reflex Sight : Cabela's
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Centerpoint is OK but a better and more reliable one is the TruGlo Dual Red/Green Reflex Sight which runs from about $50-$65. Sharper and brighter reticle patterns, especially in broad daylight. The key things a red dot type sight must have to be effective is sharp reticle patterns not fuzzy so that accuracy can be maximized and bright patterns that can be seen readily in daylight and don't fade into the background and become hard to pickup with your eyes. That and none of the issues these type of sight gets, mainly the intermittent dot syndrome and the rotating zero position over time problem.

http://www.truglo.com/pc_product_detail.asp?key=FAE78CA6D94A4528890178580AD3343D&catid=52E3D7409570433EBF69FA2CBEB51CA6

The $102 price is MSRP. Seldom do they cost that much.
 
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