EPA to phase out stop/start systems on cars

Have a 2018 Buick Regal with the "feature", seems like an interesting waste when you need let the vehicle idle for over an hour to update the GPS ??? maybe in the long run the "feature" balances out the fuel used.
 
LVSteve said:
I can hear the roar of approval from most on this forum.

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I bypassed the start/stop system on my vehicles. If you have an existing vehicle with the auto start/stop system there is a solution but the device does cost $99. For me it was a no-brainer and well worth the money. It is a simple plug-and-play device. I put one on my Jeep and another one on my Ford
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bigggbbruce said:
But you drive a Prius...I drove big rigs, going through So. Cal on the freeway Many times a Prius would exit the carpool lane at the last instant to join a backed up exit lane stopping in front of my truck trying to commit suicide...and to your point. I haven't driven 100,000 in the last 8 years. Far less . I can live with the cost of driving my diesel 4x4.
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Born with a heart murmur so no CDL for me. A hernia kept me out of the military, never mentioned the heart murmur at the pre induction physical. Doc told me to get the hernia fixed before it strangulated itself. I did just that after 40 years.
 
LVSteve said:
I can hear the roar of approval from most on this forum.

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EPA to phase out controversial start-stop car technology

The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) announced plans to phase out the controversial start-stop technology in vehicles, a feature that has divided drivers.E
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The system is and always has been voluntary. It provides a small EPA credit for a tiny boost in performance. With enough pressure from buyers they might stop including it but expecting them to retroactively allow us to shut it off permanently might be a stretch.
 
greenwellg said:
Born with a heart murmur so no CDL for me. A hernia kept me out of the military, never mentioned the heart murmur at the pre induction physical. Doc told me to get the hernia fixed before it strangulated itself. I did just that after 40 years.
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🤔 Not sure these are reasons for owning a Prius, but I've been in a few accidents that have rendered me with permanent disabilities. I think I qualify for big diesel trucks. 😁
 
dben002 said:
The earth is warming, we are slowly loosing our protective ozone layer and tides are rising and they are shouting this.....Hummmmmmmm....Look here guys see what we are holding in our right hand and don't look at the left hand..........
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I can tell you I am personally responsible for dumping pounds of Freon into the atmosphere while working on B-52s and probably own one of those "holes" in the ozone. I can also tell you that those holes healed themself long ago. I've lived in S. FL for over 30 years, and the tides are no higher now than in 1993 when I retired here. Nothing has gone "underwater."
 
SMSgt said:
I would not own a vehicle that had this system and could not be "disabled." I don't mean punch a button that turns it off until the next trip, I mean "disabled."
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I posted this a couple days ago to a car forum, but think it belongs here also!

Do these so called engineers take LSD before they come up with these off the wall devices?:mad:

If I was a boss and some hot shot engineer came to me with this Eureka idea of start/stop I would have fired him/her on the spot and escorted out of the building by security!
 
I’ve owned two BMW’s with this irritating feature. It was originated by European manufacturers to beat childish mileage tests run in a lab and fool amateur politicians/automotive engineers into thinking they had done something useful. At one time BMW dealers would permanently disable the switch for $200. All wasted resources. The foolish regulators didn't realize that extra wear on starters and batteries translates directly to a higher carbon footprint, just as does corn based ethanol fuel, windmills and photovoltaic electricity.
 
Our Tiguan has a button you can push to turn if off. However, you have to push that button every time you start the vehicle. You can disable it by pulling the lead wire off the battery but since they classify it as part of the emission system it's a sticky issue with the EPA, and the warranty. This seems stupid to me since they offer a button to shut off anyways. I always shut it off, the wife does when she thinks of it, usually the first time it jerks after a stoplight turns green quickly. What a stupid idea in the first place, IMO. As has been stated, it's not good for your engine, at all...
 
greenwellg said:
Regardless of what you drive, individual vehicular emissions today are 1/80th of what they were prior to emissions controls beginning in 1963 when the first crankcase ventilation systems were mandated. Same year as seatbelts. 2 million people have died in vehicle accidents in my lifetime (just in the USA). Without progress that would easily be over 3 or even 4 million since 1950.
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Our skies are so clean that the government has a plan in place to introduce dust into the upper atmosphere if we get too much UV in the air. We are our own worst enemies.
 
I really hate it and am glad to see it go. But one of the features was supposed to be a beefed up starter system to accommodate it. Has anyone of you had a starter to fail one a vehicle with that feature?
 
My understanding is that the entire system that makes the auto stop-start operate smoothly is quite complicated.
It’s far more than a couple of switches and heavy duty starter motor.

Stupid things like this that provide marginal benefit is part of why today’s cars cost more than a new home did a generation ago.

And, it drives up operating costs and repair expenses. Just turning it off isn’t a real solution.
 
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