Ever tried any S&B 00 Buck?

[jbull380]

I've been going through my boxes bags and buckets of 12 Ga ammo for my newly acquired pump. I found several boxes of S&B 2-3/4" 00 Buck. It's kinda odd as the shells are almost 1/4" longer than the Federal tactical loads I have. The S&Bs have 12 pellets vs the 9 in the Federal Flitecontrols. Below is a target at 25 and one at 15 yards. They shoot nowhere as tight as the federals but I like them for defense in the woods. Bystanders aren't much of a concern. The Federals will do at 25 what the S&Bs do at 15. Probably the best tactical buck you can get. I think the S&Bs will be good problem solvers.

At 25 Yards

At 15 Yards

 

[Art Doc]

1/4" longer and 12 pellets vs 9? You sure they aren't 3" magnums because that's what it sounds like to me.

 

[jbull380]

That was what I thought as well but the box as well as the individual shells are clearly marked 2-3/4" and do chamber in my 2-3/4" only barrel. They are not quite 3" long. They load fire and eject without any problems.

 

[Alpo]

The Federals have a folded crimp. Since 12 gauge is 3/4" in diameter, a folded crimp 12 gauge is 3/8" longer, fired, than it is when loaded.

The S&Bs have a roll-crimp. They are about 1/8" longer when fired.

That's why the loaded S&Bs can be longer, and still be 2 3/4". It's the fired length that counts. Not the loaded length.

I've shot a bunch of them. They work fine. They smell like burning hair, though. Strange.

 

[Bekeart]

That was what I thought as well but the box as well as the individual shells are clearly marked 2-3/4" and do chamber in my 2-3/4" only barrel. They are not quite 3" long. They load fire and eject without any problems.

Compare the length of the fired cases. Bet they are the same length after firing.

My GUESS: The roll crimp allows case to have greater capacity and still not exceed the standard overall length for a FIRED case.

Alpo typed faster ...

Bekeart

 

[jbull380]

I noticed that out at the trap as well. They are about the same length when fired.

 

[Erno86]

At an indoor range, the S&B buckshot rounds are kinda smokey. My Remington 870 Law Enforcement tubular magazine, will only hold 5 rounds of S&B buckshot, instead of the usual six. Can't beat the Federal Flite Control -- Low-recoil --- 9 pellet buckshot round for accuracy and follow-up shots!

 

[jaykellogg]

I have seen LE marked 2 3/4 buckshot that has the higher pellet count of 3" magnum. I decided to load my house gun with #4 buckshot. It is LE marked and has the higher pellet count

 

[BigBill]

I have used the sellier & bellot 12ga slugs and they have a whistle to them. But there very accurate at 50yds in a smooth bore. I just purchased a lot of the S&B "00" buck but i never matched it up yet but its the 2 3/4" 9 shot. For home and upclose personal protection its good enough.

 

[Steve C]

I've shot S&B 00 buck and as you noted it spreads faster than the Federal flight control or any other US manufactured Buck I've shot. This is probably due to not having a plastic wad cup, no buffering material, and likely soft lead pellets. The extra pellets are a plus though.

Personally I feel the S&B is quite adequate for home defense and keep some next to my Fox SXS with Imp/Mod fixed choke if a bad situation arises. As mentioned you do loose a round in a tube magazine pump due to the longer loaded shell length.

Personally I like my shotguns to live up to their nickname of "scatter gun". If I want tight precision shooting my load would be a slug or better yet a change to rifle or handgun. If you have longer than 15 yds free space in your house you must live in a very large house.

 

[badge]

I have used them and they appear to me to be well made, inexpensive ammo. I wouldn't hesitate to use them for either practice or self defense.

 

[Stu Honea]

I have several hundred of them I got in the deal on the 930SPX.I use them for range work,and havn't had any problems with them. Have 00B and #4 buck
I save the Federal LE 132 and the Win.low recoil for business.