Extreme Prejudice rig questions

[Malpasowildlifer]

I've always wanted a set-up like this..... ever since I was 9 when Carmel Video got a VHS copy of it in '88!

Is such a set-up comfortable? Does it feel weird having the weight below you waistline/pants belt? Can there not be much retention in the holster for an easy draw, since I assume the gun belt is not worn too tight?

I've yet to get a cowboy rig either so I've only worn pant's belt holsters or duty/Sam Browne rigs.

Also, what belt width do you think the two belts in the photos are?

It appears Nolte is wearing Wrangler dress jeans and the belt loops filled out by the pants belt, so the pants belt is probably 1 3/4.

But, the gun belt appears wider? Is there just a smaller buckle on the pants belt and a larger one on the gun belt with the width of the belts being the same?

Or is the gun belt wider? If it is, then it is larger than 1 3/4. Two inches then? I doubt it is uniform duty belt width of 2 1/4 (?) ?

 

[bronco45]

Gun rigs that are worn at the level that Nolte wears them fatigues the wearer in a short period of time. IMO made for horseback use, or some form of mounted patrol.

Don Hume and other makers make a 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 belt width "River belt" which Nolte is wearing. I used to wear a Bianchi 1 3/4" Black Basketweave River Belt and a 5B holster for a Model 29 4" a pair of handcuffs (S&W of course) and a single speedloader and a six cartridge belt slide on a pair of Uniform pants.

Helped save my back, as a supervisor I was allowed to carry the lightened equipment load and it worked for the time that I wore it. Later made plainclothes and adapted the same unit to Wrangler Dress Jeans and instead of a Model 29-2, started carrying a Colt LW Commander in 45 and two magazines in a pouch plus the handcuffs.

 

[Biggfoot44]

I have seen period photos frm mid 20th century of Tx Rangers wearing similar type setups.

Off the top of my head , it was at least as much a case of high waisted pants as it was low riding gunsbelt.

 

[JJEH]

I've always wanted a set-up like this.....

Me too. Look here

http://smith-wessonforum.com/gun-leather-carry-gear/392392-i-want-bbq-rig.html

 

[safearm]

The trouser belt is 1 3/4 inches, probably with a 1/2 billet.
The gun belt is 2 inches with a 1 inch billet.
Nolte based his character on Joaquin Jackson. In his book, "One Ranger, A Memoir" Jackson describes his gear, as well as his relationship with Nolte.
My El Paso Saddlery rig with Austin holster and mag case is a pretty close match (I don't need to carry handcuffs any longer).

 

[Doc Barranti]

Back in June of this past year, I made a trip to southern New Mexico for a visit with Bart Skelton. We spent a few days handling and shooting some of Skeeter's guns and talking about guns and gunleather. Bart fetched a couple holsters from his office and showed them to me. They both were built by Texas Ranger Tol Dawson, and are shown here. The bottom holster in this photo belonged to Joaquin Jackson. Before leaving, Bart presented me with Joaquin's holster. Quite a thrill! The holster at the top of the photo is a more refined version of Joaquin's holster, and Bart suggested I start building them.




After returning home, I began working on my pattern, and here are the first two prototypes, along with Joaquin's holster. I frequently use the bottom left holster as a carry rig with my Sig 1911.




Once I had the holster pattern sorted out, I needed a name, so I asked Bart what he thought. He gave Joaquin a call for his opinion, and he suggested the name Border Ranger. As a thank you to Bart for his inspiration, I sent him this holster and matching mag pouch. I'll be building another just like it for Joaquin in appreciation for his part in the project.




A short time after I built my prototypes, gunwriter Jim Wilson, former Sheriff of Crockett County Texas contacted me. While he was sheriff, he wore a Tol Dawson rig, and he commissioned me to recreate it for him. Here it is with his Colt Commander with silver stocks.

 

[keith44spl]

I like em like that...............

Pant belt 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 inch, gunbelt 2 to maybe 2 1/4 inches
With matching buckles of course....

 

[sipowicz]

Just curious...why do they still make them with a trigger cut out? Is that just being traditional? I always thought exposed triggers were more prone to an AD.

 

[Iggy]

I like them too.

 

[Doc Barranti]

Just curious...why do they still make them with a trigger cut out? Is that just being traditional? I always thought exposed triggers were more prone to an AD.

Traditional? Yes. More prone to AD (ND)? No.

If you follow the 4 basic rules of firearms, you will never have a Negligent Discharge. I'd bet money that the majority of holster related NDs happen upon reholstering a gun into a holster with a covered trigger guard while the person has their finger on the trigger... Safety starts and ends with the shooter, not the holster.

That said, I build a bunch of holsters with covered triggers...it's good to have choices!

 

[tops]

Just curious...why do they still make them with a trigger cut out? Is that just being traditional? I always thought exposed triggers were more prone to an AD.

Instead of worrying about a safe holster I carry a safer gun. I have never heard of anything pulling the trigger of a revolver and making it go off while it is in the holster. When I carry my Colt .45ACP I carry it with the hammer down and I have never heard of one of them going off when carried with the hammer down. Larry

 

[keith44spl]

Just curious...why do they still make them with a trigger cut out? Is that just being traditional? I always thought exposed triggers were more prone to an AD.

Sip,

I ain't carried the ol war horse but fur forty sumthing years....

Used to have a rig with a cut out trigger guard slot.

But, when I started carrying cocked, unlocked and the grip safety pinned down...I went to the covered trigger guard for safety sake.








Su Amigo,
Dave

 

[nyeti]

Just picked this up from 05carbonDRZ on this board for my 4" Armaloyed Model 520 with fitted Spegal grips. I am looking for excuses to wear it. I am doing training for a rural agency here in Texas and love seeing some of the traditional styled rigs being worn.

Malpassowildflower, I was originally going to do the Dirty Harry shoulder rig for your old 6.5" 29-2. Being I am in the Republic, I changed my mind and have a similar holster coming for it.

 

[05CarbonDRZ]

Looking good,Those Spegel Stocks go great with the color of the Holster.

 

[t2203]

Chisholm Trail leather makes a very nice copy. I think they also made the original. Either way looks nice on the website. They make great leather.

 

[tops]

My 1967 Lawrence holster and Colt .45. The hammer throng is partially hid behind the hammer. Larry

 

[05CarbonDRZ]

Here is a similar 1911 Holster I made:

image by alex1961m, on Flickr

 

[TxTrooper]

The belts, buckles, holsters, and grips were all made by inmates in the Texas Prison Craft Shops. They supply many Texas Law Dawgs with custom quality gear. The pants belt is 1.5 inches wide, the gun rig belt is 2 inches.

 

[Iggy]

That thar rig is fine as frog's hair..

 

[Russell Cottle]

Here's mine from when I polished the seat of a Ford 'Crown Vic' 50-60 hrs a week.....



The folded suede belt made her a lot more comfortable...