Fatal Accidental Discharge

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A grim reminder that the result of complacency is generally tragic when it comes to firearm safety.
A short time ago at a gun show in Springfield MO. I saw a kid, about 13-14 pick up a scoped Ruger .22 and aim it at a guy about 20 feet away-he "scoped" a couple people-I yelled at him and he stopped-dad was only 5 feet away, and appeared to be insulted.
At the private weapon range at Fort Wood-a guy was taking a look at my pistol-while his kid, again about 12 or 13 picked up dads guns-aiming down the firing line at us-other shooters. I yelled at the kid-then advised the dad.
As for the Casco shooting-the kid had to get hold of the gun-a round had to be chambered-he had to point it at the dad-and the trigger had to be pulled-at any stage the incident could have been averted.
 
I once had a friend bring over a famous tv actor to my house to go shooting. At the time he was in his early 20s. He had never fired a gun. He was a super sharp witty guy. Yet haveing never been around guns I think he was so excited he just didnt think. I had lent him a winchester model 62. Thats the pump with a hammer. I was looking at the gun muzzel at my gut and cocked!
When I was a boy on my first deer hunt someone emptyed a 30-30 at me thinking I was a deer! Fortunatly he was about a 110 yards off and a bad shot! All that I had was a single shot 20 guage with a slug, otherwise we might have had a war. I was about 12 years old. It was late the last hour of the last day. I was crouching in some willows on a marsh in wisconsin. A guy was walking to his car. He shaded his eyes looking my direction. I sat still. All the sudden he raised his rifle, a lever action and opened up on me! At first I thought he must be shooting at a deer behind me that I couldnt see. When you are a 12 year old kid you assume adults are smarter and trust them. These bullets were singing all around me! I froze. He fired 6 or 7 times and ran out. I stood up and this guy ran to his car and scratched out. He threw his gun in the car without caseing it which was a huge no-no in wisconsin. Odds are I or my dad would have known him if I seen him closer up as it happened only about 8 miles from our house and we knew everyone in the country.
 
I taught my nephew to shoot a .22 rifle when he was ten years old. The first lesson was gun safety, repeated over and over. Each time he picked up the gun I had him say the safety rules out loud. It was like doing a pre-flight check. After he got comfortable with the gun and could hit paper targets with reasonable skill I took him into the woods and he shot his first animal, a squirrel. We brought it back to the house and I taught him how to clean and prepare it. Through the hunting experience, he learned the most important gun lesson of all that guns do kill.

It’s unfortunate but gun accidents do happen. With the proper training the odds of having an accident decrease.
 
My 8 year old grand daughter knows and demonstrates the gun safety mantra every time I take her shooting ... " gun pointed in a safe direction and finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot ". Her safety skills are better than some of the adults I see at public ranges.
 
Two police officers in the next town (Araygay, Ndianaiay) where involved in AD in their patrol car earlier this week. Both on duty reserve officers. The sixty three yr. old officer was described in the paper as "unfamiliar with Glocks" He was loading his gun in the passenger seat and shot himself through the hand. The bullet continued onward and hit his partner in the drivers seat in the side.
 
Years ago I read where two officers got in a fist fight over who was gonna drive! Maybe this was similar?
 
feralmerril said:
Years ago I read where two officers got in a fist fight over who was gonna drive! Maybe this was similar?
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Two years ago, same city. One officer had another AD with a Glock 21 (.45). This was 2 uniformed officers at a range. #1 shot #2 and killed him at a public firing range. I have suggested the this dept. carry candy canes for self defense as their firearms training is sadly lacking to the point of being a menace to society.
 
feralmerril said:
I once had a friend bring over a famous tv actor to my house to go shooting. At the time he was in his early 20s. He had never fired a gun. He was a super sharp witty guy. Yet haveing never been around guns I think he was so excited he just didnt think. I had lent him a winchester model 62. Thats the pump with a hammer. I was looking at the gun muzzel at my gut and cocked!
When I was a boy on my first deer hunt someone emptyed a 30-30 at me thinking I was a deer! Fortunatly he was about a 110 yards off and a bad shot! All that I had was a single shot 20 guage with a slug, otherwise we might have had a war. I was about 12 years old. It was late the last hour of the last day. I was crouching in some willows on a marsh in wisconsin. A guy was walking to his car. He shaded his eyes looking my direction. I sat still. All the sudden he raised his rifle, a lever action and opened up on me! At first I thought he must be shooting at a deer behind me that I couldnt see. When you are a 12 year old kid you assume adults are smarter and trust them. These bullets were singing all around me! I froze. He fired 6 or 7 times and ran out. I stood up and this guy ran to his car and scratched out. He threw his gun in the car without caseing it which was a huge no-no in wisconsin. Odds are I or my dad would have known him if I seen him closer up as it happened only about 8 miles from our house and we knew everyone in the country.
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sounds like a pair of one timers.
the first would have been a proper washout ... someone has to give em a chance ... after they blow it ... never have em back.
the second should have been washed out years prior to givin you the story to tell on two counts.
blatant stupidity for the screw up, and not owning up to it, and second .... you shouldn't be here to tell the tale. No one with that brand of marksmanship has any place hunting game....
while we might not always see eye to eye ... Im still glad he was a double ended loser.
 
We had a policewoman shoot herself in the leg recently at the LEO training range. She claimed it just went off while holstering it... She even stuck with that story on the follow up story the next day in the paper. Yes, a Glock suddenly goes off for no reason while holstering it. I'm very sure her finger wasn't in the guard... Yeah, sure...

For what it's worth, I explained and demonstrated the mistake to my kids. I made sure they understand why keeping the finger out of the guard at all times unless you're in the act of shooting is an absolute requirement. With a cleared, unloaded pistol, I showed them in slow motion what happens when you holster with your finger anywhere in the guard.
 
bitstream said:
We had a policewoman shoot herself in the leg recently at the LEO training range. She claimed it just went off while holstering it... She even stuck with that story on the follow up story the next day in the paper. Yes, a Glock suddenly goes off for no reason while holstering it. I'm very sure her finger wasn't in the guard... Yeah, sure...

For what it's worth, I explained and demonstrated the mistake to my kids. I made sure they understand why keeping the finger out of the guard at all times unless you're in the act of shooting is an absolute requirement. With a cleared, unloaded pistol, I showed them in slow motion what happens when you holster with your finger anywhere in the guard.
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knowing I would be bringing arms into the life of a lady unfamiliar with having heat around the house ... I got a few airsoft guns as training aids.
"cleared and unloaded = you only thought so" results in a plastic BB creating a welt on those days your just a little too human for public consumption;)
 
venomballistics said:
knowing I would be bringing arms into the life of a lady unfamiliar with having heat around the house ... I got a few airsoft guns as training aids.
"cleared and unloaded = you only thought so" results in a plastic BB creating a welt on those days your just a little too human for public consumption;)
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It can't be repeated enough that cleared and unloaded doesn't mean safe to point wherever you feel. I've drummed that into the family more than often than I can count. Good idea on the airsoft. I keep the live ammo locked up for good measure, but still enforce the no pointing rule religiously. Every member in the family has their own eye and ear protection and has been shown proper and safe operation. Then I keep everything locked up and I'm the only one with the keys/combos. I do as much as I can.
 
I thought so ... airsoft can leave a mark .. 45 can leave a body ... and training is where your mistakes are supposed to be made ... preferably with airsoft
 
Two younger boys here. We shoot fairly often bb guns on up. I go over about everything but am still right next to them most of the time. If I'm not right there my eyes are. I don't care how much you talk to them, youngsters(boys for sure) have the potential to do DUMB stuff.
 
the post is bad news, lack of safety training for sure.
few years back there was a vid going around that showed a hot-shot DEA agent in Florida shoot himself in the leg while talking to a group of HS kids, he tryed to stay 'cool' for a minute or 2 but lost it
 
5906fan said:
the post is bad news, lack of safety training for sure.
few years back there was a vid going around that showed a hot-shot DEA agent in Florida shoot himself in the leg while talking to a group of HS kids, he tryed to stay 'cool' for a minute or 2 but lost it
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That video is on youtube (firewall at work prevents me from finding it to give link here). That is one of the funniest things I've watched. The fool tells the kids how only he can safely handle the weapon and then he shoots himself in the foot. Comedy Gold right there.
 
I remember that video. I even had it ear marked on my old computer to get a laugh once in awhile. See dat? Dats what I am talking about he said, trying to pass it off as part of the demostraion for a minuet. It was hilarious! He took so much heat he even tried sueing his department or whoever released the video! I just googled it. Here it is.
YouTube - DEA Agent
By the way, the tv actor that I mentioned was eddie mecca, "carmine" on lavern & shirley. He apologised, no harm done, and I really liked the guy.
 
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