wrw
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Hello, Bill. Thanks for the note. the initials are for W jr. My Dad is a great guy and one of a kind. Thanks for asking.
FBI Agent with Reg Mag - Update
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wrw
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Dave - I left a post for Bill and Dick. I'll forward the number of the one so someone can do a little investigation. I'd love to know if the other one's whereabouts is known. Thanks for the communication... WRW
DWFAN
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This is getting interesting.
Dw
Dw
Mrelindrb: Do you what kind of holster the RM is riding in? I think I would like to have one of those for a 3 1/2, if they can still be found. (or replicated)
Nightowl,
Until Dave gets back to you, I'll speculate that it is a "Tom Threepersons" holster by S. D. (Tio Sam) Meyers. Threepersons was a contemporary lawman. The holster is still available from El Paso Saddlery and possibly others. One caution, guns carried in a Threeperson's have a completely exposed trigger. That isn't considered "Kosher" today so be very careful carrying a doubleaction firearm in one.
Bob
Until Dave gets back to you, I'll speculate that it is a "Tom Threepersons" holster by S. D. (Tio Sam) Meyers. Threepersons was a contemporary lawman. The holster is still available from El Paso Saddlery and possibly others. One caution, guns carried in a Threeperson's have a completely exposed trigger. That isn't considered "Kosher" today so be very careful carrying a doubleaction firearm in one.
Bob
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merlindrb
Member
Bob is spot on right. It's a Threepersons style holster by S.D.Myres.
I've not seen one on the internet, in fact you don't see much at all by Myres.
I have the original holster and matching 6 round belt loop 'ammo carrier' if you need pics.
I've not seen one on the internet, in fact you don't see much at all by Myres.
I have the original holster and matching 6 round belt loop 'ammo carrier' if you need pics.
Pics would be great and surely would add to the already interesting history presented. I thougt it might be one of the Threepersons type. FWIW, I personnally like the the exposed trigger guard and think there is little need to cover the trigger guard with all that excess leather! It just makes the holster ugly and heavier. Political correctness has not been my strong suit. Thanks for the information. Really cool history.
Nightowl,
My comments about the exposed trigger guard had nothing to do with "political correctness" but simply with the realities of life today. I also like the looks of the exposed trigger on the Threepersons. I also like the looks of a "Fitz" modified M1917 with the trigger guard cut away and I like the feel of a Jordan modified M19 with the trigger guard narrowed thinner than the trigger, or a trigger shoe that extends a quarter inch wider than the trigger guard. The manual of arms for handguns during those days also dictated that you put your finger on the trigger as soon as you gripped the gun. But, the reality is that all of those things DO increase the likelyhood of an unintentional discharge. In the middle of the last century, if you had a UD, you were mainly concerned with the hole in your own leg. Today, the liability is endless.
My comments were not meant in a derogatory manner about either you or the holster. Since I don't know you or anything about your handgun skills and you asked about the holster, I felt a duty to point out one of its charactistics...I love 'em too.
Bob
My comments about the exposed trigger guard had nothing to do with "political correctness" but simply with the realities of life today. I also like the looks of the exposed trigger on the Threepersons. I also like the looks of a "Fitz" modified M1917 with the trigger guard cut away and I like the feel of a Jordan modified M19 with the trigger guard narrowed thinner than the trigger, or a trigger shoe that extends a quarter inch wider than the trigger guard. The manual of arms for handguns during those days also dictated that you put your finger on the trigger as soon as you gripped the gun. But, the reality is that all of those things DO increase the likelyhood of an unintentional discharge. In the middle of the last century, if you had a UD, you were mainly concerned with the hole in your own leg. Today, the liability is endless.
My comments were not meant in a derogatory manner about either you or the holster. Since I don't know you or anything about your handgun skills and you asked about the holster, I felt a duty to point out one of its charactistics...I love 'em too.
Bob
Oops. Took no offense at all, didn't even enter my mind. I was just expressing my opinion on the state of revolver holsters today! And I like the looks of the holster. I checked and S.D. Meyers no longer exists, but El Paso makes them now.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
PS I carried a revolver for over twenty years and still prefer shooting them.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
PS I carried a revolver for over twenty years and still prefer shooting them.
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merlindrb
Member
Here's the pics. Final one is with the pre-war magnum he carried for 27/8 years - fits like a glove.
That IS nice. I think that is what is meant when they say that the first level of force is "Officer Presence". That would command respect, even if the badge didn't.
Bob
Bob
Absolutely beautiful. Thanks for the pics. No extra weight in that holster, just what was needed! It sure would be nice to find one of those. There must be some around, laying in some drawer.
rburg
Member
The SD Myers thing is still developing. David Carroll won a display last month with one. And Frank Hodges has located another Myers holster he's had for years. It has the Covington, KY stamp on it. Myers started here where I live prior to moving to Texas. David's gun was displayed for years by Frank. It also has the dubious distinction of having the only set of S&W Tuskoid grips I've seen. The holster with that gun was also a SD Myers, again made when they were up here.
Finding vintage leather isn't easy, but it does turn up. Never pass a pile of old holsters without looking. That goes double at antique malls!
Finding vintage leather isn't easy, but it does turn up. Never pass a pile of old holsters without looking. That goes double at antique malls!
SA50
Member
I have to say that is the coolest picture & story I have seen thus far on the forum.
That is so awesome to have a photo of the agent with the actual firearm on his side.
That is a real treasure.
SA 50
That is so awesome to have a photo of the agent with the actual firearm on his side.
That is a real treasure.
SA 50
Is there a retaining thong that is not visible? It appears from the photos that there is not a retaining system. I guess those guys were ready!!
sigp220.45
US Veteran
Fantastic photography, great thread.
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merlindrb
Member
Thanks for the comments guys.
Dick - I can understand the attraction of these. The quality is just remarkable. I'll be looking for them at future gun shows.
In the post today, via Ebay, came a 1940 S.D. Myres catalog, complete with original order form and return envelope. It's just pristine!!
So I turn to page 12 and there's Holster No. 666 "Tom Threepersons style, full hand carved, trigger set high for easy draw, quick draw effect, hand stitched for wide belt. Price $5.50"
I'd like a dozen please and I'm sending off the order form, in the envelope, tonight!!
Interestingly (to me anyway) they offered the same holsters with safety straps even in 1940.
It's one of the greatest catalogs I've ever seen. The range and number of products is truly remarkable - including carved briefcases, saddle rugs, cowboy chaps, handcuff cases, loading magazine pouches, rifle slings, belts etc. etc.
I will try to scan and post but it's soooo big I'm not sure it will work. Anyone got any ideas how I can post a 36 Page catalog? Or put it up somewhere and post a link to it?
Dick - I can understand the attraction of these. The quality is just remarkable. I'll be looking for them at future gun shows.
In the post today, via Ebay, came a 1940 S.D. Myres catalog, complete with original order form and return envelope. It's just pristine!!
So I turn to page 12 and there's Holster No. 666 "Tom Threepersons style, full hand carved, trigger set high for easy draw, quick draw effect, hand stitched for wide belt. Price $5.50"
I'd like a dozen please and I'm sending off the order form, in the envelope, tonight!!
Interestingly (to me anyway) they offered the same holsters with safety straps even in 1940.
It's one of the greatest catalogs I've ever seen. The range and number of products is truly remarkable - including carved briefcases, saddle rugs, cowboy chaps, handcuff cases, loading magazine pouches, rifle slings, belts etc. etc.
I will try to scan and post but it's soooo big I'm not sure it will work. Anyone got any ideas how I can post a 36 Page catalog? Or put it up somewhere and post a link to it?
rburg
Member
What I see is that the quality of the guns is complemented by the quality of the leather. I'm fairly certain that the quality is a function of the great depression and the availability of skilled labor at very reasonable prices. The same factors would have been in play with leather workers as at the gun manufacturers. It seems that a lot more pride existed then, and the drive that created the wonderful guns and leather was replaced after WWII with a drive toward volume.
That deterioration continued for a lot of years after the war, too. Both the guns and their holsters are worth seeking. Until recently, they weren't really sought after. While we've been accused of driving up the prices (correctly), many of them are only rising to a more reasonable level.
opoefc
US Veteran
Rick Nahas has recently told me that Walter Walsh is till alive but very old and feeble and does not clearly remember much of his interesting escapades with the FBI or the S&Ws he used. Ed.
