Fed up with MSN's/Bill Gate's anti-gun stance.. are Apple computers any good?

I bought a Macbook Pro last year after getting fed up with a PC only lasting a year or so. I haven't looked back.

Last weekend, I needed to run a program for a class and had to install a windows partition on the mac. It installed nicely, but I found Windows to not be very user friendly anymore. Things just flow better on the Macbook, plus I already have an iPhone and iPad.

This Macbook is just as fast today as it was 14 months ago when I got it.

They are a lot more money, but so are Smith & Wessons!!!:):):)
 
there are several options off the beaten path actually.
Linux is a free operating system that'll run on most PCs ... takes a willingness to learn but it's truely remarkable for what you pay for it which is nothing at all.

but we want new computers ... how's $5 sound?
Raspberry Pi Zero is a tiny circuit board PC that you'll need to add some peripherals too. there are several operating systems free to download for it as well.

Android is no joke, WiFi tablets have nearly replaced all the PC's in my household.

In any case, you trade a strength off to gain another strength elsewhere across the spectrum of computers.
 
I have been using PC with Windows for quite awhile

I did not like the Mac I bought and gave it to one of my kids.
He likes it a lot.
 
IMHO Apple Computers BLOW PC's away - but unfortunately, many wealthy people do contribute to anti-gun causes and would not be too surprised if Tim Cook (CEO APPLE) didn't also contribute to the anti's. :mad: Since a computer these days is more of a necessity than ever before, we all need one so YES the iMacs are incredible and I would NEVER go back to a PC.

It SUCKS helping support anti-gun causes but there are times we have NO choice - unless you can build your own or you live in a bunker on Mars.
 
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LostintheOzone said:
I'll try this again. I've always owned microsoft stuff. Used it at work so much I couldn't see learning two different operating systems. I drive a GM vehicle too. I know, I'm just helping the bad guys win. I'm thinking about buying a new alarm system made in China. If it isn't made offshore it's probably owned by someone who lives offshore or at least someone who keeps their money there.
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There's really not much to learn. Mail and Internet browsers work pretty much the same. If you like the MS Office products they have a version that runs on the MAC. I think anyone could make the switch easily within just a few days and mostly just to get familiar with where everything is. And the screen resolution is really nice on these old eyes.
 
I would have switched to Linux a while ago but, a lot of the games I play online depend in some part on windows to operate properly. That is like the phone OS, last time I switched I would have went BB but, the alarm Co. for our church will only work with Android or iOs/Apple.
 
I'd drive myself nuts if I had to research the gun position of every CEO of every product I buy.
Having said that, I've been a Macintosh user since the late 1980's. I'm typing this on a 7 year old MacBook pro that is my daily driver. There are 4 other Apple computers in this house, some older and some newer. I have to deal with WinDoze computers in the school computer lab I use daily. You can probably guess what my advice is.
 
I just bought a MacBook Pro for grad school, a big chunk of change. I have a an old iMac as well that is getting up there in age. For concealed carry I have an iPhone 4 that is close to five years old.
 
Apple is just as anti as Bill though so your not helping anything there just giving them more $.
I switched to Linux years ago and while there are many antis there as well at least I'm not giving them any $.
 
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If I recall correctly, Bill and Melinda Gates donated millions and were major spokespersons for the anti-gun referendum in Oregon.
While Tim Cook may share their opinions, he hasn't been as much of a sponsor.
 
I was assimilated into the Apple ecosystem in 2007. While window and iOS each have issues, the Apple systems are nearly seamless. No backup issues; the iPhone, the iPads, the Mac Minis and the MacBooks all backup as soon as they come up on the Time Capsule. All synch via iCloud. And the Apple TVs all AirPlay off any device. Just too easy.
 
S42N8 said:
I was assimilated into the Apple ecosystem in 2007. While window and iOS each have issues, the Apple systems are nearly seamless. No backup issues; the iPhone, the iPads, the Mac Minis and the MacBooks all backup as soon as they come up on the Time Capsule. All synch via iCloud. And the Apple TVs all AirPlay off any device. Just too easy.
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Just too easy, works in malevolent ways also. I have read of several mechanisms that can be used to completely erase all your daisy-chained data, or hold it for ransom. A quick google search yields many stories, here is one...

http://www.wired.com/2012/08/apple-amazon-mat-honan-hacking/

If you have data you want to keep, you should keep a separate backup drive disconnected from everything and an alternate off-site or cloud backup.
 
Just a couple days a coworker found out that Apple moved all his music from his iphone to icloud without asking him, much of which he had bought elsewhere so he was annoyed at having to re-download it all and that Apple has that much control over his stuff
 
sheesh... now I figure I'd be worse off buying her a new puter....Thanks for the honest opinions and advice guys/ladies.
 
I'm a long term Mac user. There seems to be fewer virus issues, but that is mainly due to them being less popular. Virus writers attack Windows because they have more targets. Go to the wrong web site and your Mac can be just as easily infected as Windows.

I generally run my browsers with JavaScript disabled, which helps. Also take the usual precautions like never click on links in emails from unknown sources, beware of downloading apps from untrustworthy sources, etc.

I do like that a new Apple system is clean, doesn't come with a bunch of junk installed.

I can't comment on iCloud since I don't use it. I won't let apple control my data, and I've never found it inconvenient to use the cable to sync devices.

I've given up basing my buying decisions on the politics of CEOs.
 
da gimp said:
Thinking about getting new computers for us during the Christmas sales period. . . . or do Apple and any other competitor have serious drawbacks that might make it a major headache to own them? . . .
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Macintosh computers are very reliable. Operating systems tend to be stable, reasonably resistant to hack attack, and able to use nearly all Windows-generated data.

I know zippo about the politics of its staff or major shareholders, but remember Apple's headquarters is Cupertino in San Jose County.

I have used only Macintosh computers since 1986, my first Mac being purchased new. I HAVE NOT BOUGHT A NEW COMPUTER SINCE. I presently have five, the oldest dates from 1998, newest from 2005. All function perfectly. All wander the Internet without issue. All have current virus preventive applications fully functional.

Before ill health forced retirement I was a manuscript editor-book designer. That is, smaller publishers [would] send me raw manuscripts. I would [invisibly] proof read, edit, and layout for RC negatives, or direct printing, or however that publisher preferred his product. My computers had to be able to accept pretty much anything (although I had to use a conversion service once for translating Itek eight-inch disks to rtf to do my job). My computers had to be able to use highly specialized software with no stability issues.

Hope something in this mishmash helps.
 
I am afraid that no matter what hardware or software you choose you will find that it was designed or marketed by some liberal techies who are by their very nature anti-gun. All you need as proof is to see that the majority of these companies are headquartered in the Republik of Kalifornia.
 
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