Feinstein can't even speak of the real reason ...

[CTI1USNRET]

Feinstein can't even speak of the real reason Americans must have the freedom to own AR-15s.

It's in the Constitution.

Read it here.

 

[Harrison]

I think she denies your interpretation of the 2d amendment. She lectured Ray Cruz, who has actually argued constitutional cases before the supreme court, about what the constitution and 2d amendment mean, or at least her version of it. The people of California gave her the power of a senator and she is going to use it.

 

[eschoendorff]

I don't understand all the "interpretations" of the 2nd amendment.

It's pretty clear: read the words and abide by them. It doesn't take any "interpretation."

Sheesh.

 

[Travis15R]

Its not that they are confused by it so they think it means "this"when it really means "that". Its that it does not say what they want it to so they take the stance that it is an old document and the founders could not foresee the types of weapons we have now so they "interpert" the constitution in a different manner.

 

[nawilson]

Its not that they are confused by it so they think it means "this"when it really means "that". Its that it does not say what they want it to so they take the stance that it is an old document and the founders could not foresee the types of weapons we have now so they "interpert" the constitution in a different manner.

I think you hit the nail on the head. I also find this explanation even more disturbing than a misinterpretation. It means a deliberate decision to ignore the Constitution followed by a rationalization to justify that. It also means you cannot reason with the person. None of our data or logic or words will sway this type of person.

 

[Poodle Soup]

take the stance that it is an old document and the founders could not foresee the types of weapons we have now so they "interpert" the constitution in a different manner.

I find it hilarious that they think our founding fathers would not know how far weapons would go. They witnessed the birth of huge advancements in military technology... multi shot rifles and huge cannons were being designed it doesn't take the big of stretch of the imagination to know that humans would continue to push the tech further into the future.

What they probably DIDNT see coming was our country being medicated by pharmaceutical companies and that problem is STILL being ignored.

 

[Xtasy]

Its not that they are confused by it so they think it means "this"when it really means "that". Its that it does not say what they want it to so they take the stance that it is an old document and the founders could not foresee the types of weapons we have now so they "interpert" the constitution in a different manner.

Wrong.. You are already interpreting way to much into the Amendment.
Our founders could not imagine either than government will have M4's and other high performance weapon. Thats why it is written in a way that it kinda covers any weapons being invented in the future.
Yes government has F16 and Abraham's tanks. But that is not really scary because we see in Afghanistan / Iraq how effective a militia armed with Ak47 can be. The balance between government and population considering firearms have to be balanced , Jets are just additions and just a little wheel in the gov armory. If just a little link in the chain brakes, the jets will stay on the ground.

 

[25elk]

Intrepretation is the crux of the matter. Lest we forget, the guy who passed the first AWB argued the definition of the word "is" in defense of his own impeachment and got away with it. Surely you can't be surprised at this latest effort by the same mob.

 

[Damn Yankee]

The Government has guns that can fire 6000 rounds a minute, so why are they opposed to the civilian having a magazine that only holds 30 rounds?

 

[CoMF]

I also find this explanation even more disturbing than a misinterpretation. It means a deliberate decision to ignore the Constitution followed by a rationalization to justify that. It also means you cannot reason with the person. None of our data or logic or words will sway this type of person.

There's a word for someone like that: Ideologue

 

[CoMF]

Yes government has F16 and Abraham's tanks. But that is not really scary because we see in Afghanistan / Iraq how effective a militia armed with Ak47 can be.

You forgot to mention the Boer and Finnish Winter Wars as further examples of the efficacy of small arms in guerilla warfare.

 

[Buffalohunter60]

I think it will boil down to "We the people" standing up and telling our elected representatives that we will not comply with any bill that is Unconstitutional and I think all of us can understand the Second Amendment even if some of them do not get it. We are Home land Security and the strongest military in the world. We need to organize and plan for the day they thin k they can "Come an get em" No one is going to do it for us. Work to get the Sheriffs and Police on board. If the Oath means anything to them and they are honorable men...they will stand with us. Many Sheriffs have taken a stand...if we stand with them...no one is going to take our freedom. Taking our Freedom is not going to be Free and the price will be a lot more than they are willing to pay. No one wants to stand upo and we are all expecting our Politicions to do the right thing.....(not going to happen) until they realize the Giant they will be facing...we far ournumber any military in the world and it will be a big mistake to try and take our freedom. Rally to the cause because thats all they are going to understand. I am sure there are many of "US" on their list. They need to realize that we also know who is trying to take our freedom so it goes both ways. "Not to be Infringed" means what it says...want to challange it....go for it and we will see how that works for ya. We are Brothers in a struggle for Freedom, we cant lose this one folks or life as we know it will never be the same. I put a high price on my freedom...if they want it...its going to be expensive. I understand what small arms can do...in Vietnam we had Tanks, Armored personal Carriers, Helicopter Gun Ships, Artillery, ......we were against a little man in the jungle with an AK-47 that fought hit and run ......he outlasted us and he ended the action by melting back into the jungle when ever he wanted to...and ambushed us when ever he wanted to. An enemy with a rifle that hits when he chooses to...is tough to defeat and they just keep coming. And they were not as good a shot as most of us are. No one wants to see that happen here and it will never come to that if we have the Guts to stand up and let our representatives know that we will not accept our freedom being threatened by anyone. Those that do...need to find another job. Rally to the Cause...contact your sheriffs...talk to the police...let our representatives know where you stand...ask them direct questions like....what is your position on AR-15's and high capacity magazines? The ones that will not answer....have answered. Hold their feet to the fire and let them know we are watching their every move and how they vote. Ask them if they honor the Oath they took and what does "Not to be Infringed mean" to them?

 

[Travis15R]

I find it hilarious that they think our founding fathers would not know how far weapons would go. They witnessed the birth of huge advancements in military technology... multi shot rifles and huge cannons were being designed it doesn't take the big of stretch of the imagination to know that humans would continue to push the tech further into the future.

What they probably DIDNT see coming was our country being medicated by pharmaceutical companies and that problem is STILL being ignored.

Its not that they really think the founders could not see how far weapons could advance, they just use that as a crutch or excuse to use the line of thinking that there are other interpretations of the 2A. Its not that any politician is sitting back scratching their head trying to figure out what the 2A really means and at the end of the day they just throw up their hands and say....well I guess I'll just interpret it this way as far as what they really meant. They know exactly what the 2A says and what it means, it was well written and written that way for a reason. They just use this ruse as a way of trying to get around the fact that the 2A is written in clear black and white language.

 

[MurphyPr]

What too many people don't seem to understand is that with or without the second amendment, people have the right to defend their lives, liberties, and property and therefore have the right to keep and bear arms.

Words written on a piece of paper are not the source of human rights, we are, ourselves, the source of our rights. A "constitutional right" is not a right granted by the constitution, it is a right protected by the constitution, and all individual rights (whether enumerated or not) are protected by the constitution. That leaves only the question of what, exactly, a right is, but that is a discussion that strays a bit far from the topic at hand.

The Constitution is not the source of rights, it merely serves to acknowledge and protect rights from government transgression.

Individual rights, by definition, are not subject to majority rule. Congress could figure out a way to strip the entire Bill of Rights from the Constitution and it would have no affect on the rights we possess as human beings (though it would likely have a profound effect on our ability to actually exercise those rights).

 

[Xtasy]

The constitution is like money, it has the value we give it. The government is based on the constitution as is the nation and its people. So if the government thinks they can work trespass the limits set left and right by the constitution we the people have to show them where those are. The same goes for the opposite way where government shows the nation and its people where the limits are, usually in form of fines and jail. The difference is that the government is held by the constitution on how it can define the limits while the nation itself has every right to do what it takes if government needs a wake up call