FFL Transfers and tampering

[Jack Flash]

Sometimes clerks at gun stores just make simple but honest mistakes. I had a S&W coming in that UPS tracking told me had arrived at my FFL's store. Yet when I went there, the guys there said "no, no S&Ws have come in recently." This went on for a couple of days. So I got persistent about it and the clerk told me, "Well, we did get a Ruger that day, but haven't opened it yet."

Turns out the "Ruger" was my S&W, the seller had just shipped it in an old Ruger box he had laying around. I guess it never occurred to the clerk that someone would do that.

On a more sinister note, some years back a member posted about a bad transaction he had. Seems the seller offered a revolver with two sets of stocks, the originals and a set of stags thrown in the deal. You guessed it, when he went to pick up his purchase, the stags were nowhere to be found. They turned the store upside down and could not find them. They could only guess that the guy who opened the box didn't notice them and threw them out with the packaging / padding. The buyer was suspicious that a clerk had swiped them. Or the seller didn't send them even though he swore up and down that he did. Or ... Or ... Or ...

 

[PPS1980]

Paranoia will destroy ya. An FFL has to log every weapon in and only has a limited time to do so. Guys that are telling you they get the FFL to wait on them are either getting there immediately or are dealing with an FFL that doesn't know or just doesn't follow the rules. There are unscrupulous people but FFLs are tightly regulated. I've never had a problem with a transfer. If you want feedback on specific FFLs use Gunbrokers system, it includes ratings for the FFLs, thats how I found my current FFL and they are a pawn shop that charges $0 per transfer. Good luck.

 

[Kanewpadle]

Maybe I can help. What part of Washington are you located? I know at least three highly reputable FFL'S here in South King County.


BUT.......If you have a gun transferred you will also pay taxes on that gun. The tax will be based on what you paid for the gun. If no receipt can be provided or the gun was given to you by other than a family member then the FFL will have to determine market value of the gun and collect the tax. If you transfer into King County the tax is 10%.

Quite often it cost the same or less to simply buy locally. One very good friend's LGS has his website linked to three distributors which is updated every 15 minutes. He can have a hand gun in 3-5 days and a long gun in 7-10 days. Sometimes it pays to shop around and be patient.

Send me a PM if you need help.

 

[pharmer]

And stop digging up 6 year old threads, I'm confused enough. Joe

 

[Iframe32s]

Hi all,

I have a couple of questions about buying guns online and doing a FFL transfer to my local dealer:
Are the guns delivered in a sealed condition or are the packaging loose? Are the boxes opened? Are the local dealers required to open the box and inspect the contents before handing it over to me?
If the above answer is "YES", then how do you guarantee that the local dealer will not tamper with your new gun? I mean tampering the gun as in stealing the new parts and replacing them with older ones?

I would appreciate to hear your thots on this. Thanks!

I COMPLETELY understand & empathize with your legitimate concern, as do the 01 FFL holders I deal with. If there is any damage or problem, I want to be able to track it to one of two probabilities: 1. it was packaged that way. 2. It was damaged in shipment. I absolutely don't want to deal with the "unknown" of what may or may not have happened after it arrived at the destination.

I've dealt with the last issue in the past & don't buy the "We have to immediately open every package that arrives" (il)logic. "We must open every package & log into our A&D record before the close of business" is the logic I subscribe to.

That having been said, & out of respect for those whose reputations & livelihoods are dependent upon following the letter of the law; I've established good rapport & understanding with several FFL holders who have me tell the sender to include my name somewhere on the shipping label so they don't have to play the "Let's open to see what's inside" game. Of course, I have to watch the tracking status & get to their place of business the same day.

FWIW, it's the only way I conduct business & so far it's worked for me/us, although I don't come into possession of many non-C&R items.

Just one man's opinion.

 

[ditrina]

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