Saw this ammo for sale at a good price ($169/1000) and thought I'd give it a try. I've never seen it before; it looks like the truncated cone bullets would cut a cleaner hole in paper than the standard round nose. Anyone have any experience with this round, pro or con?
Fiocchi 9 mm 124 grain Truncated Cone
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No experience with this particular load, but years ago I did try some Fiocchi 115 grain JHP 9x19 ammo in my TZ-75 Series 88. It was definitely hotter than standard pressure U.S. made ammo, it was much closer to U.S. made +P and it made my TZ function with 100% reliability with the factory recoil spring, something that standard pressure U.S. ammo could not do.
I have tried handloads using truncated cone bullets and yes, they can cut a much cleaner hole in paper than a round nose bullet.
I have tried handloads using truncated cone bullets and yes, they can cut a much cleaner hole in paper than a round nose bullet.
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The 124 grain TC load was the original developed loading...but during WWI it was deemed to kill too well so the Germans had to come up with the 115 grain RN so it would kill more humanely ???? Say what !
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9mm 124 gr TRUNCATED FLAT POINTS
I bought a bunch of these in cast & they feed/shoot accurately. NO IDEA how they would be for S/D. I generally prefer a larger meplat. No complaints for targets.
I bought a bunch of these in cast & they feed/shoot accurately. NO IDEA how they would be for S/D. I generally prefer a larger meplat. No complaints for targets.
Bingo.
The truncated cone works similar to a semi-wadcutter in that the flat meplat leads to greater energy dump and kinetic energy transfer into the target medium. Stopping power is increased dramatically over standard round nosed ball, which slips and slides through tissue, leading to little wounding.
Not only is that a good quality brand of ammo, it's a great fightsman's load especially when you're wanting more penetration and would turn any 9mm into a serviceable woods gun for defense against smaller woodland four-legged threats, not to mention any goblins hellbent on doing you harm.
In a word, EXCELLENT choice!!
Dang!! Great price.
I wish I'd seen that ammo sale. My Smith's love Fiocchi.
I wish I'd seen that ammo sale. My Smith's love Fiocchi.
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Thanks for all the replies. This ammo is still in stock at SGAmmo.
HKSmith, thanks for the info. I heard a loud cheer from the Smiths in my gun safe when I hit the purchase button.
$18.58 a round is a couple of cents cheaper than what I pay for 115gr 9mm into my ammo safe when it is on sale.
Oops! That should read $0.1858 or 18.58 cents per round. A good price either way.
$18.58 a round is a couple of cents cheaper than what I pay for 115gr 9mm into my ammo safe when it is on sale.
Oops! That should read $0.1858 or 18.58 cents per round. A good price either way.
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Good shooting!
Balarney. Even hollow points that expand don't make any different wound track than round nosed ball ammo. ER docs and the ME can't tell what it was that made the hole unless they recover the bullet. This is received wisdom but has no basis in fact. There's no such thing as stopping power, and the shape of the bullet makes no difference to bad guys, only to paper.
True, hollow point pistol bullets do not expand, so stay away from those 1950's-1970's pistol bullet designs. Handgun hollow point bullets designed in the past 40 years have greatly improved and the ones designed in the last 15-20 years are really good. But yes, those ancient hollow point pistol bullets were little better than FMJ.
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I've not tried that particular loading, however I've used Fiocchi ammo in 115 grain 9mm & 130 grain 38 Super with excellent results (at least in the functionality dept). They d1d seem hotter than Winchester, Remington and Federal in the same loadings, however I was not Chronographing them so my statement on this is based on perception and feel. Other than that - I have had no reliability / function issues with Fiocchi ammo.
As far as expansion and carry ammo goes, I'd stick with Speer 124 grain Gold Dot Hollow Point (short barrel version) +P which is what I use in my Sig P365 and is a "street proven round". Use the Fiocchi for your target and practice sessions as I have no knowledge of how they actually perform in human tissue - great price. Just my opinions of course.
As far as expansion and carry ammo goes, I'd stick with Speer 124 grain Gold Dot Hollow Point (short barrel version) +P which is what I use in my Sig P365 and is a "street proven round". Use the Fiocchi for your target and practice sessions as I have no knowledge of how they actually perform in human tissue - great price. Just my opinions of course.
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I have never used this ammo but shoot a lot of Lawman 147 grain truncated cone FMJ. It does make a cleaner hole in paper.
That is nice but normally not very useful. About the only use I have found for it is I can shoot the same target twice if I alternate between round nose in one string and truncated cone in the next. You can tell which shots were from which string by looking at the holes. Sometimes saves me from waiting for the range to clear so I can set up fresh paper targets.
That is nice but normally not very useful. About the only use I have found for it is I can shoot the same target twice if I alternate between round nose in one string and truncated cone in the next. You can tell which shots were from which string by looking at the holes. Sometimes saves me from waiting for the range to clear so I can set up fresh paper targets.
