Fiocchi primers at Powder Valley

[Just another 22 shooter]

I'd say a little better each year, but who's keeping track.... 2020 was $150 per thousand, 2021 was $125, 2022 was $100 and now we're at $80 per thousand. Maybe by 2025 we'll be down to $40 to $50.

Totally agree....little by little it's getting better. I stopped at Brownells a couple weeks ago and they had CCI and/or Winchester primers of just about every size for $96 -$150/1000. I saw quite a few guys stop and look but nobody bought any. That tells me that at least some shooters are willing to restrain from buying at the high prices and hopefully drive prices down more.

 

[lrrifleman]

I have to agree, supplies are slowly getting better. However, I am having difficulty locating LPP locally. My club is arranging a bulk order for this summer, but at this point, all but LPP are available. We won't know what the prices will be until before the order is finalized.

As a result, the LPPs on hand are being dedicated to my 41s and 44s. Shifting to SPP brass for the 45 ACP.

 

[rockquarry]

Check Target Sports. I bought a carton of 5,000 CCI-300s a few months back for under $500 and that included tax and haz. fee. No charge for shipping if you buy a carton. Not a steal, but they had them in stock. They have Win. SP now at $83 a thousand (before tax and haz. fees).

 

[LostintheOzone]

Midsouth just sent me a notice. They have SR primers for $95/1000.

I'll pass but somebody may need them.

 

[Skeet 028]

I just lucked out on a 1000 CCI LPPs yesterday for 55 bucks. Didn't really NEED 'em but cheapest I have seen in a long time.Gonna load 44 sp and 45 Colt. 500 each. Here's where that really cheap loading could come in...at least for the 45. A friend gave me 500 commercial cast 250 gr 45 bullets I could use some old primers I bought for 5 dollars and I bought 2_old powder cans of powder...both with roughly a pound of powder in each..Green Dot and Herco...paid 2.50 for them..free bullets. 1/2 cent primers 2 tenths cent for powder...free bullets and already had the cases...But that is the last of the REALLY cheap LPPs. But I was happy to get the CCIs for 55.00. Going to put the 2- 3 pound metal cans on an auction site. I don't consider them collectable but someone will

 

[Sevens]

The interesting thing about Fiocchi primers to be made at Little Rock is that they will be lead-free. I predict that within 10 years, maybe sooner, all primers will be. There are several different lead-free technologies available. Federal has been producing some for awhile based on the Thermite reaction, and I believe that is what Fiocchi will use. I have no idea what type primer mix the EXP primers are/will be using. The relatively new AA40 military 5.56mm training round made by Federal uses lead-free primers.

We discussed this a number of years ago on another forum and the general concern is that lead-free primers are going to have a viable shelf life... different than the primers we are all accustomed to that tend to never break down and die.

Would this be your opinion also?

 

[Skeet 028]

Lead free?? That is a real concern to me..I know... conspiracy theory ... But I do have still useable 75 year old primers. And we've loaded these old tech things so long...will we have to waste resources learning new tricks. I do understand the whole thing won't really concern me in a few years...I am old

 

[bellsie]

fiocchi primers

hoi here in the netherlands it just the opposit the price per 1500 130 euro in 2020 65 euro you got it good in the states

 

[Mr. October]

I think you are exactly right. Ask any gas station owner.

And most convenience stores sell gas at cost. That isn't their big money maker. Coffee for $2.12/cup on the other hand rakes in huge profits.

 

[Mr. October]

While people are waiting on the cost of primers to come down we need them to continue to wait on buying the still-overpriced loaded ammo. Prices there have plateaued at around .30/round as the best price (with tax & shipping to most places). I'm keeping an eye on my ammo shelf and, at this point, won't buy until I absolutely need to. It isn't like there is a shortage anymore. No need to buy just because there is availability. If manufacturers find themselves with unpurchased ammo beginning to stockpile, they will stop consuming primers at extraordinary rates as well.

 

[glenwolde]

There are countless examples of "Loss Leaders" in all retail spaces. It's a common practice that was worked for a very long time.

Too bad primers aren't in that category.

Doesn't work in small businesses. This is why Walmart can blow into town with low prices and drive out all the small businesses, then raise their prices. It's considered a predatory tactic used by large and well capitalized businesses to gain market share and is often paid for from profits on everything else. A "loss leader" at a company like Walmart is barely noticeable on their financials. Cabelas could probably loss-lead primers.

Not to mention any below market pricing on primers these days just attracts the black market guys. The inventory will end up on a table at a gun show marked way up. That doesn't help and the store loses a profit opportunity in a tough environment.

The market will work eventually. I think the supply chain issues are slowing down the response. But high prices will attract increased supply. It's good to see Remington primers back in the market. Now foreign primers are showing up.

I got an email ad yesterday with $12.00 9mm 115gr Fiocchi. I think that might be back to (the new) normal. Many predicted that it would never go below $20. If it stays there for a while primers should show back up.

 

[Skeet 028]

I can tell you I had a small reloading business. Every one of my reloading components was used as a loss leader at one time or another. Primers included. But I didn't really take a loss. I sold items at times for their cost...usually giving the discount at a certain sales point. The only thing I hated to sell at cost was shot...It took a lot of work being so heavy. There were times I sold as much as 8 tons of shot a week...at 50 cents a bag profit. I usually put the order minimum a bit higher when I used shot as the come-on. I once sold about 200 cases of waterfowl loads in 3 days...cutting my profit to 2 dollars a box. 20 box cases. It was a blow out sale...next year we went to steel shot. All successful businesses use loss leaders at least a little. One wholesaler I know used free shipping on occasion. But there was some shipping built into his pricing. Where he made out was the shipping companies. He got shipping kickbacks for every full truck they sent out. It really adds up. Free shipping usually doesn't really cost a company any profit. Just can't do it all the time