Firearm Microstamping Bill Signed By Gov. Newsom

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Controversial AB 2847 signed into law

Earlier this week, Governor Gavin Newsom signed into law a bill that requires newer model handguns in California to be microstamped.

Gun manufacturers and firearm advocates denounced the decision, noting that it not only violates Second Amendment rights and would increase black market activity and and non-registered weapons in the state, but would also hurt economically during a time of economic downturn.

Firearm Microstamping Bill Signed By Gov. Newsom - California Globe

 

[rbmac52]

I saw this kind of garbage legislation coming down the pike long before I retired in 2005. I moved out of the state two weeks after I concluded my 27 year career in law enforcement.

Pretty soon, when you look up California's list of approved weapons, it will be a blank page.

 

[Jessie]

It's micromanaging. To what possible end you might ask?
Control

 

[6GUNSONLY]

Just more of the hi-tech but practically useless gadgetry that the left-wingers love. Makes them feel like they're doing something to "reduce crime" when in reality it does nothing but drive up costs and infringe on liberty. But neither of those outcomes bother them at all.

 

[Tadeus67]

A "solution" to a non existing problem.....these politicians are the same no matter the country they are.

 

[Echo40]

I've never understood the concept of Micro-stamping. I mean, in order for it to be any practical value for solving violent crimes committed with a firearm, then there would need to be a database setup for every single firearm, who owns each firearm, and said database would have to be kept meticulously up-to-date.

It's just another one of those impractical ideas come up by people with way too much free time, yet apparently don't bother to consider the amount of time, resources, and effort would be required to implement them.

This is yet another reason why I find it so amusing when folks act like the buffoons who come up with this sort of thing are masterminds who are using clever tactics as part of some sort of elaborate, extremely long-term evil plan to rob citizens of their civil rights.
Fortunately, they're not that smart, and even if they were, then they would have realized that such a long-term scheme couldn't possibly be carried out within the lifetime of any of the parties involved, thus resulting in the project being abandoned in favor of projects that they could actually live to reap the benefits of. Unfortunately, they're legitimately so naive that they actually believe that these ideas are viable, hence why they're willing to fund something so obviously financially draining, especially during times of economic crisis such as this when government spending obviously needs to be limited to only the most vital experiences rather than piling on additional expenses like this. These aren't evil geniuses of the highest order who come up with this nonsense, it's the over-privileged offspring of the absurdly wealthy and powerful who lack any concept of a budget, much less how to manage one, have been surrounded by incompetent sycophants their entire lives, and are hopelessly out of touch with reality as a result.

 

[Gunhacker]

I've never understood the concept of Micro-stamping. I mean, in order for it to be any practical value for solving violent crimes committed with a firearm, then there would need to be a database setup for every single firearm, who owns each firearm, and said database would have to be kept meticulously up-to-date.

California has had that in place for decades.

In order to purchase a firearm, there is a form called the Dealer Record of Sale (DROS) that gets filled out, and submitted to the CA DOJ, which triggers a background check. CA has a 10 waiting period, if you don't pass the background check, the FFL dealer will not get approval from the DOJ to release the firearm to the buyer at the end of the waiting period.

Buying a firearm from a private party requires going thru in FFL and a DROS being filled out with both seller and buyer info and submitted to the DOJ, with the same waiting period and background check taking place.

I don't understand is... CA has had a micro-stamping law for some time now, requiring new pistols to have that feature in order to qualify for being added to the DOJ handgun roster. And California has not had a new pistol added to the roster since 2013... all that remains is the few pistol models that were already on the roster before that law took effect.

If this law expands that to revolvers, what good would that do, unless a bud guys manually ejects the casings from the revolver?

 

[ISCS Yoda]

If this law expands that to revolvers, what good would that do, unless a bud guys manually ejects the casings from the revolver?

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[schutz5]

Swell,real swell.

 

[jag312]

This is just one more goofy idea from the California loonies. Before I retired, I heard all kinds of crazy ideas for "gun safety". The goofiest idea was a law requiring engineering a 5 minute delay into a firearm. Pull the trigger and wait 5 minutes for the firearm to shoot. It will give you five minutes to ponder your decision to shoot and change your mind. Yes, someone actually came up with that "sensible" idea.
Equally crazy was a proposal to classify air soft guns that shoot little plastic beads as deadly weapons. I feel sorry for the sane people who live in the insane asylum of California.

 

[SpikeIDMT]

Pretty soon, when you look up California's list of approved weapons, it will be a blank page.

Pretty sure that's their plan.

That and driving up costs has always been the result

 

[Buick]

Sounds like there will be a hot black market for expended range brass that criminals can purchase to liberally sprinkle around a crime scene.

 

[johngalt]

Of course the real goal is a total ban. This is just less direct.

 

[TTSH]

I don't see where it changes much of anything. The damage (to CA gunowners by limiting their choices) was already done by the earlier (2007?) microstamping law. This is just the crazy anti-2A folks in CA having another temper tantrum that the technology has not been implemented and probably never will be.

But maybe I am missing something. As horrible and anti-2A as Massachusetts is, California seems so much worse.

BTW, notice that law enforcement is still exempt. Law enforcement is always exempt from the stupidest and silliest of the anti-gun laws.

 

[stansdds]

There is a saying, "as California goes, so goes the rest of the country". I predict we will soon see bills requiring civilian owned firearms to have a micro-stamping scheme resurrected in D.C.

 

[Racer X]

But isn't it still illegal for a Federal firearms owner database? Does this sidestep that very important legal protection?

And how well/long will the firing pin raised markings last? To the best of my knowledge, there is only one technology company, holding a patent, for the firing pin stamp. What about needing a replacement firing pin? How will that work?

The patent holder is related to one of the sponsors of the federal bill that never passed. There was a scandal that wasn't exactly made public, because it would clash with their agenda.

 

[LDM]

It will probably take less than five minutes for some smart gunsmith to find a method to defeat the microstamping. The whole idea with this and "smart" gun technology is to raise the cost of firearms to make them unaccessible to all but the privileged elites that provide the campaign money.

 

[Johnnu2]

I'm thinking that legislation like this accounts for the mass exodus from Ca. to Colo. (and the resultant exodus of Colorado folk to 'elsewhere')...??
J.

 

[robertrwalsh]

Due to a personal-family tragedy Gavin Newsom hates guns and hates gun owners. He therefore feels he is entitled to force his personal views on everybody in the state and can be counted on to do everything he can to interfere with the rights of honest gun owners. (His Grandfather was a survivor of the Batan Death March. Blew his brains out at the dinner table one night after years of threatening to kill family members.)

 

[Johnnu2]

Oh of course, makes 'sense' now.... I guess it's OK then... ))
J.