Update on Texas Firearm Legislation

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As mentioned in earlier posts HB 1927 by Rep. Schaefer has passed the House and Senate but the Senate couldn't help themselves from amending the bill which proved unacceptable to the author (and most House Members that voted for the bill). Thus hashing out language that is acceptable to both House and Senate has been the responsibility of a conference committee this week. Although conference committee negotiations are not open to the public, Rep. Schaefer has consistently fought hard for the bill, and the Texas Chapter of Gun Owners of America has reason to believe he is continuing to advocate for our rights. By the way, Gun Owners of America have been the ramrod on advocating for Texas firearm legislation, and have done a great job.

Yesterday Rep. Schaefer announced: "Great progress is being made on Constitutional Carry! Positive work with the Senate continues." Next week is the final week of this session so moves this week or it doesn't move at all.

The House has listened to the firearm-owning citizens of Texas and the Texas Senate has tended to listen more to law enforcement organizations/associations and jurisdictions who generally oppose permit-less carry. Make of that what you will.

A bill that many consider more important than Constitutional Carry is making Texas a sanctuary state for enforcement of federal firearms control legislation.

Several weeks ago, the House passed HB 2622 by Rep. Holland and the Senate passed SB 513 by Sen. Hall. They are not "companion" bills (identical) but rather differ on some important points. Each bill is designed to keep Texas State personnel and resources from being used to enforce future Federal laws restricting firearm ownership and have provisions to withhold funding from agencies or entities that violate this law. The Senate version also included an individual criminal penalty for some who violate this law. Both bills passed their respective chambers and then were sent to the "other" chamber for assignment to committee, committee hearings (at least two) and then to the calendars committee to be scheduled for a floor vote (which won't happen without the Speaker's okay in the House, and the Lt. Governor's sign-off in the Senate).

My wife and I advocate for agricultural, natural resource, and water issues at the Texas Legislature and I can confidently say it is a million times easier to kill bills, or to "let them die," than to pass legislation. It takes Herculean efforts to pass most bills that contain even a speck of controversy and in the great scheme of things that's alright by most people familiar with the process.

The Texas House has not moved SB 513, and time is now very short for a bill to get through the committee process - in fact almost impossible. Last week, a Senate committee heard HB 2622 and voted it forward. It will be eligible for a Senate floor vote as early as today. This should be an easy vote for the Senate, because it already passed similar language - as long as Senators don't make floor amendments which would surely kill the bill.

One could make a case the House is the mover and shaker on Constitutional Carry and the Senate is taking the lead on making Texas a sanctuary state for federal gun grab policies. Today it seems like Constitutional Carry has a better chance of passage than Texas becoming a sanctuary state but never say never when the Texas Legislature is part of the equation. Stay tuned; it will all be over very soon.
 
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Well they have hashed out their differences and it will be headed to the Governors desk. Heard it on the radio around 4 this afternoon.
From what I just read, it still has to be voted on again in the House and Senate before making it to Abbott’s desk, but I sure never thought it would get this far.

For the record, I will continue to renew my TX CHL for travel purposes even if this passes.
 
From what I just read, it still has to be voted on again in the House and Senate before making it to Abbott’s desk, but I sure never thought it would get this far.

For the record, I will continue to renew my TX CHL for travel purposes even if this passes.

Yes, the compromise language must be approved by both House and Senate before it moves to the Governor's desk. Generally language worked out in conference committee has little difficulty being approved by both chambers as the "bill" has been passed only the new language need be approved and it normally takes just seconds on the floor to accomplish this.

After Governor Abbott signs it the new law will take effect on September 1, 2021 unless it receives "emergency" status and that's probably not likely.
 
The only real question is...
With the other Bills also needing final votes this last week, will it make to the final vote in time?
 
Good news!

Interesting that in the attached "poll" there was no mention of sample size, questions asked or area surveyed. :rolleyes:

Per the Texas Tribune: The University of Texas/Texas Tribune survey of 1200 registered voters was conducted from April 16 to 22, 2021 and has an overall margin of error of +/- 2.83 percentage points for results presented among registered voters.

Details here:Support or Oppose allowing legal gun owners over the age of 21 to carry handguns in most public places (April 2021) | The Texas Politics Project
 
I like that one of the Senate amendments that survived, was that DPS make available a FREE Online Gun Safety program for anyone interested.

One of the arguments has always been that people should be 'trained', but that it should not be mandatory.

Yes, many will not afford themselves the opportunity to take the course (most likely those of the 'When all else fails, Read the Instructions' mindset), but hopefully adults with children will give it a look.
 
Per the Texas Tribune: The University of Texas/Texas Tribune survey of 1200 registered voters was conducted from April 16 to 22, 2021 and has an overall margin of error of +/- 2.83 percentage points for results presented among registered voters.

Details here:Support or Oppose allowing legal gun owners over the age of 21 to carry handguns in most public places (April 2021) | The Texas Politics Project

The Texas Tribune is a liberal rag associated with the university that is staffed by students. Treat any poll accredited to them with suspicion.
 
Curious to see if they will leave it up to businesses just like LTC carry where a private business can regulate whether they allow fire arms? I saw a new sign this weekend at a place I like to eat at. It wasn't the normal 30.06-30.07, instead it went something like this "Fire Arms beyond this door are restricted unless carried by a licensed gun owner".
 
The Texas Tribune is a liberal rag associated with the university that is staffed by students. Treat any poll accredited to them with suspicion.
That's true. Please don't take my posting of those quotes or links as any endorsement of them, rather just addressing a prior observation.
 
Those are the blue TABC signs. The wording is very odd. It essentially says that it's illegal to illegally carry a gun onto the premises.

There shouldn't be any changes to 30:06 or 30:07 since they prohibit concealed or open carry, but don't specifically mention licenses.

Nor will the red 51% signs be affected. Again, those are TABC required signs and violating to prohibition on carry in premises that receive more than half of their revenue from selling alcohol is still a felony.

In case anyone is wondering why a guy from MA knows so much about TX law, it's because I travel there several times a year and it's always important to know the firearms laws in states you're traveling through.

Curious to see if they will leave it up to businesses just like LTC carry where a private business can regulate whether they allow fire arms? I saw a new sign this weekend at a place I like to eat at. It wasn't the normal 30.06-30.07, instead it went something like this "Fire Arms beyond this door are restricted unless carried by a licensed gun owner".
 
I saw a new sign this weekend at a place I like to eat at. It wasn't the normal 30.06-30.07, instead it went something like this "Fire Arms beyond this door are restricted unless carried by a licensed gun owner".
I'm not a lawyer, but I used to watch Perry Mason every week during the early 60's...I think the word "restricted" will negate a successful enforcement of that sign, as it does not specify what restriction it means...If they don't want unlicensed carry on the premises, the word "forbidden" may have been a better choice...But at this time, only 30.06 or 30.07 signage is enforceable...:rolleyes:...Ben
 
This is bad for Texas, nothing good will come from all these untrained gun owners. Without proper training they will be unable to disassemble clean and reassemble a pistol in 30 seconds while blindfolded, nor will they be able empty a magazine in a 6'' round target at 30 yds while doing a Starsky & Hutch roll across the warehouse floor. I'm afraid for my safety.
 
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