First AR15 - Mistake?

You didn't borrow that from the Forestry Service, did ya? $5,000 Reward: Explosives stolen from Forest Service :eek:


Na....

they are my great Grandfathers...... I keep em next to my Bed....

No FUSE required....:D

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the amount of decades you played with gun powder is meaningless. gaining proficiency in a select firearm does not take years.
 
Na....

they are my great Grandfathers...... I keep em next to my Bed....

No FUSE required....:D

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Man I wouldnt touch them with anything shorter than a 30ft pole...Those sticks have been around a while....definately no fuse required....am not sure they would take the motion of throwing LOL

it does look like a box of fun....I have a couple of big stumps that I would like removed.
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the amount of decades you played with gun powder is meaningless. gaining proficiency in a select firearm does not take years.

I thought you wanted to debate. If you think it does not take more than a few months to become proficient with a firearm, then you are truly ignorant.

Proficiency with a self defense firearm is not defined as shooting from a bench without any stress. Do you shoot IDPA? Three gun? Any type of timed and scored competition where the time provides a little stress? How about anything where you may run between stations to get the breathing and heart rate up, to simulate adrenaline and stress? Or how about hunting, where you are actually taking a life? Ever heard of buck fever? It is the adrenaline dump that happens when a hunter sees a big game animal that he wants to harvest. The heart beat quickens, rate of breath increases, some even begin to visibly shake. Hunters learn how to deal with this and to calm themselves before taking the shot. You learn that in the field, not at the bench. If you have not had experiences where you learned to bring these physiological and psychological responses under control, you are not proficient with the firearm for self defense.
 
12 guage vs AR 15 the Biden Challenge - YouTube

i'll keep things simple and show some evidence of my OPINION on why the AR15 will become, or already has become, the home defense weapon of choice for the modern time.

That video is total garbage...taking firearm advice from Joe Biden is like taking firearm advice from, well, you. Joe Biden proved himself an idiot when he said to step on the porch and fire two blasts in the air and anyone with intent to harm will scatter. Well, now since she is using a double barrel she has to reload. She will also be charged with discharging a firearm in city limits, at a minimum. Can't really claim self defense and fear for your life when you don't even have a target.

Nobody knowledgeable, in this thread or otherwise, has said you don't have to aim a shotgun. They didn't aim, they missed. Take the AR and shoot it without aiming. I bet you get the same result.

Taking the woman that has not trained doesn't prove anything either. They didn't teach her how to shoulder the shotgun. Since it was not shouldered, it really was not being aimed correctly. If you are not trained on proper use, you will get the same results. Same with the AR...ok, she used a red dot and pulled a trigger and managed to hit, but with no grouping. Take my wife and she hits 4" clay discs that are moving at about 40 mph with her shotgun. She knows how to use it.

Let's put it this way...you and Japes are in the same general locale I believe. You guys should meet at the range, and do a test. Seven yards, 5 seconds, see who puts more hits on target...Japes with his Benelli Nova, or you with your AR. I put my money on Japes in that scenario.

Now back up the target to 50 yards....even though I don't think you know come 'ere from sick 'em, I would put my money on you in that scenario.
 
BaJeeezus!!
No Arrgh (?) you are correct, it does not take a lifetime of shooting to become proficient with a particular firearm. Proficiency just means you have reached a basic operating level. Like a drivers license means you are proficient at driving, it doesn't mean you can go down to the local track and race, that is something that is learned through experience.

Getting your body truly in rhythm with your shooting takes a lifetime of practice. Getting your breathing and your trigger pull together and if your running and gunning that is even harder. I learned to shoot at a young age and after practice became a good shot at a young age. I have always shot very well, but in that last 10 years I have made great gains in my ability. So don't tell me that shooting for 35 years doesn't come with benefits of increased knowledge, skill and wherewithal concerning loading, shooting and firearms.

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My sport at 300 yards

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My Sport at 100 yards
I would bet on Japes also!!!
 
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BaJeeezus!!
No Arrgh (?) you are correct, it does not take a lifetime of shooting to become proficient with a particular firearm. Proficiency just means you have reached a basic operating level. Like a drivers license means you are proficient at driving, it doesn't mean you can go down to the local track and race, that is something that is learned through experience.

Getting your body truly in rhythm with your shooting takes a lifetime of practice. Getting your breathing and your trigger pull together and if your running and gunning that is even harder. I learned to shoot at a young age and after practice became a good shot at a young age. I have always shot very well, but in that last 10 years I have made great gains in my ability. So don't tell me that shooting for 35 years doesn't come with benefits of increased knowledge, skill and wherewithal concerning loading, shooting and firearms.

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My sport at 300 yards

I wish i could do that. Someday i hope i can. At the moment am just working on running and gunning and getting hits on target as soon as possible. ill work on closing my groupings down the road :)
 
i get a chuckle noticing the same people liking eachothers' posts over and over. The keyboard warriors.


Ar15 vs shotgun; keyboard warriors cannot debate. keyboard warriors resort to personal attacks.....and the internets will be internets, lol.

Get more trigger time, then I'll assign your opinion some credibility.

Now I didn't attack you personally, but you seem to take umbrage at the net ninja label. If it smells like poop...
 
Hey I'm not a ninja, I dont own any headbands, or those ninja clothes. The only ninja words I know are toyota, honda, samurai, sushi and karate. I dont have any tactical clothing. But I do have a shooting table, chair, target and gongs stands, shooting rests and targets in my truck all the time. I use them too often to waste my time unloading them. Sooooo, if that makes me a shooting chair ninja, well, so be it!!! :D :D :D

P.S. I also have hearing and eye protection, gongs and shooting bags.
 
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