My suppressors are AAC so my 5.56 and 7.62 rifles all have the AAC Brakeout 2.0 combo FH/Brake on them. They work well for muzzle rise and tend not to have nearly as much blowback as a straight up MB does and in testing have almost as muted of a flash signature as their Blackout FH. And if you're plinking at a crowded range where you're worried about annoying a neighbor (and don't have a suppressor) you can put on a Blastout muzzle device to send the blast forward.
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Flash Suppressor VS Muzzle Brake
- Thread starter agksimon
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While felt recoil is a subjective thing, let's put the recoil of the AR15 clone in perspective. Depending upon full size, carbine and/or barrel weight but with no excessories (intentional spelling), the recoil impulse of a typical example runs 2.5-3.5 lbs. Or, about half that of a fairly typical service pistol.
Given that, I'll paraphrase Ken Hackathorn's comment: "If you need to reduce recoil, the best way is your bedroom floor. Lay on it every day and push it away 20 times. Work up from there."
While that's somewhat simplistic, good instruction would probably help more than widgets, but hey, it's your money.
Given that, I'll paraphrase Ken Hackathorn's comment: "If you need to reduce recoil, the best way is your bedroom floor. Lay on it every day and push it away 20 times. Work up from there."
While that's somewhat simplistic, good instruction would probably help more than widgets, but hey, it's your money.
Rastoff
US Veteran
Necessary? No. There isn't a single muzzle device on any shoulder fired gun that's necessary. Helpful? Well, that's the argument isn't it?
On my .308Win bolt gun I find the muzzle brake very helpful. It reduced muzzle rise by at least 80%.
There are many that say they don't see any difference when they put a muzzle brake on their 5.56/.223 rifles. For me, I found a world of difference. I wouldn't have an AR without one. I find that it's much easier to keep the gun flat with the muzzle brake.
Considering the guys around you at the range is a nice gesture, but unnecessary. Most will understand and work with you. To the few it bothers, move down the line further.
On my .308Win bolt gun I find the muzzle brake very helpful. It reduced muzzle rise by at least 80%.
There are many that say they don't see any difference when they put a muzzle brake on their 5.56/.223 rifles. For me, I found a world of difference. I wouldn't have an AR without one. I find that it's much easier to keep the gun flat with the muzzle brake.
Considering the guys around you at the range is a nice gesture, but unnecessary. Most will understand and work with you. To the few it bothers, move down the line further.
Dr.Lou's comments put me in mind of an opinion poll, followed by a debate on the IQ of the respondents I heard about one time.
The opinion poll dealt with fishing tackle---(Why is it made?).
It seems the distinct majority of the respondents thought it was made to catch fish.
The few remaining were pretty sure it was made to sell to fishermen.
Without knowin' the first thing about S&W M&P 15 rifles, and supposing they were rompin', stompin' big bores, I took a look at this thread to see what the folks had to say about tamin' rompin', stompin', big bores. After I'd looked for a spell, I decided I better find out for sure just what sort of rompin', stompin', big bore this was---so I did. Near as I can tell, this M&P 15 is sort of like my old Colt Sporter-----one of those .223 "assault rifle" things.
Then I decided I'd best be going back to the folks talkin' about neat, old handguns. I understand those folks.
Ralph Tremaine
The opinion poll dealt with fishing tackle---(Why is it made?).
It seems the distinct majority of the respondents thought it was made to catch fish.
The few remaining were pretty sure it was made to sell to fishermen.
Without knowin' the first thing about S&W M&P 15 rifles, and supposing they were rompin', stompin' big bores, I took a look at this thread to see what the folks had to say about tamin' rompin', stompin', big bores. After I'd looked for a spell, I decided I better find out for sure just what sort of rompin', stompin', big bore this was---so I did. Near as I can tell, this M&P 15 is sort of like my old Colt Sporter-----one of those .223 "assault rifle" things.
Then I decided I'd best be going back to the folks talkin' about neat, old handguns. I understand those folks.
Ralph Tremaine
Several years back at a TPC (Tactical Police Competition) match, some one mentioned that none of the competitors seemed to be wearing....tactical clothing...... A quick look around confirmed that the only 5.11 stuff seemed to be confined to the manufacturers reps hawking products (Did we mention our Police Discount?). This was despite the presence of real world HSLD folks as competitors/honored guests.
This lead to a spirited discussion that concluded that the prime market for that gear was for folks-let me see if I can put this delicately-who need to reinforce their self image or get a firmer grip on their man card.
Rastoff
US Veteran
Or who need more pockets. I like 5.11 pants. Cheetos.........not so much.
CAJUNLAWYER
Member
My experiences tell me that most brakes, suppresors and AR gizmos are bought for their aesthetic value rather than their function. 98% of AR owners are tacticool paper punchers or milk jug commandos, 1.9% are competitors, and the other .01% are actual operators. For the 98%, which now includes me, could do just as well with no muzzle device afixed to our barrels. I will admit that my ARs are adorned with some sort of flash hider, mostly because they look cooler than a naked barrel, but they do help when hunting coyotes at night. Don't get me started on the chubby, 5.11 clad, beard wearing, cheato eating armchair killers. Then again it's better than spending money on booze and chicks.Of course, this is Just my opinion.
I find your stereotype quite offensive. I am neither a tacticool paper puncher nor a milk jug commando. I prefer to be categorized as an Armadillo Assassin. And when I was growing up an operator is who you talked to when you dialed 0. I didn't know they carried AR 15's
