Found Grail Sig P220

[JayFramer]

LOVE the old German folded carbon slide pre-rail P220s. Here's mine:

An ideal stopper, German engineering and better made than the newer American guns. Don't need a rail, I use the Harries method. Going to send this one off to SIG-Sauer for their refurbishment program and where they replace the night sights, springs, inspect all parts, detail strip and clean, and relube to factory specs. This was a police trade in and was made in '99. In fantastic shape but this is my main home defense and open carry weapon so I want it to be at its prime.

 

[Amp]

I got mine around 77 or 78 but its in a plastic box marked SigArms. Its a 45 and shoots better than me.
Sadly it spends most its time in a warm dark safe.

 

[Andyd]

My HG marked pistol in 9mm.

 

[mbliss57]

I got mine around 77 or 78 but its in a plastic box marked SigArms. Its a 45 and shoots better than me.
Sadly it spends most its time in a warm dark safe.

I believe if you bought it in 77 or 78 and it says Sig Arms not Sig Sauer that is a Swiss made pistol. I am not 100% sure but I know that Sig was the Swiss company and Sauer the German.. Do you have pics of the proof marks. They will be a clue. Also does it say only Sig Arms or made in West Germany too?

 

[colt_saa]

Congratulations on the find

The Browning BDA came into the US chambered for 9MM Luger, 38 Super or 45 ACP.

My first one was a BDA 45 from 1977. I was looking for some new pistols for my Father and myself to carry at our auto repair shop and the BDA was the winner. I even still own that first one.

That BDA is the bottom right of this photo. The top left is the first P220 I bought with a dovetailed front sight so I could have Trijicons. The lower left is my 38 Super and the upper right is my first stainless. My 9MM P220 is not photographed

The SIG P220 was originally chambered in a total of six calibers. In addition to the three already mentioned, it was also produced in 22 LR, 30 Luger and 9MM Steyr. In recent years the 10 MM Auto cartridge became the seventh caliber offering of the P220 family of autos

I have had a long and satisfying relationship with the P220 family of auto loaders. I try to keep my old ones even if newer ones are added.

I have a few others, including some of the P220 Master Shop offerings, but that is for another thread

 

[colt_saa]

I believe if you bought it in 77 or 78 and it says Sig Arms not Sig Sauer that is a Swiss made pistol. I am not 100% sure but I know that Sig was the Swiss company and Sauer the German.. Do you have pics of the proof marks. They will be a clue. Also does it say only Sig Arms or made in West Germany too?

As I remember it, the entire reason for SIG of Switzerland to seek the joint venture was that the Swiss company was forbidden to export firearms. Truthfully I do not recall it great detail, after all this happened over 40 years ago.

So SIG formed a partnership with JP Sauer and Shon of Germany thus breathing life into SIG-Sauer

 

[mbliss57]

As I remember it, the entire reason for SIG of Switzerland to seek the joint venture was that the Swiss company was forbidden to export firearms. Truthfully I do not recall it great detail, after all this happened over 40 years ago.

So SIG formed a partnership with JP Sauer and Shon of Germany thus breathing life into SIG-Sauer

Your recollection is correct from what I have read. So Swiss instead of German proof marks and no W Germany gun and a SIG or Sig Arms gun would be Swiss made. Likely a Military gun. P75 (1975) which became P220 for civilian market. If S/N start with an A it was military, Z customs/ border police, G civilian.

 

[Fishslayer]

Love the P220. Those older ones turn up on my local classifieds ftom time to time.

My own grail 220 is one in 10mm. When they show up the owner's usually asking around $2K.

Gotta love the Kalifornistan roster.

 

[Coaltminer]

Grail Sig 220

Brother has one bought in the '80's, Euro mag release, 9mm. FFL dealer he knew bought 7 of them, NIB. Got it for $300. Shoots well, just not my thing. Cheers and Happy Christmas. Merry is outdated by 2 hundred years. Fa la la la la. Scroogy over and out

 

[Rock185]

Neat guns all. I remember when those Browning BDAs were first being imported. I was a blue steel and walnut kind of guy, and kinda thought, "what the heck is Browning doing with those things? I mean from blue steel and walnut, to what appeared to me to be sheet metal slides and plastic? Well as we know, they proved to be great guns.

My 220s were all .45 ACP till recent years. At different times, I acquired two P220 9mms, '94 and '95, with "American" type mag releases. Sold the WG '94 unfired, but still have the '95. I have enjoyed shooting this one a little bit