Frog Lube Review

[aguablanco]

I bought Frog Lube (FL) about a year ago to experiment with. Being the procrastinator that I am, I have finally started the trials. Recently used it several times on my XD-9 Tactical with great success. I have been using it exactly as directed by FL and it is much easier to clean the gun after a range session. The gun also seems to run very smoothly and never seems to have that oily feel after cleaning or during shooting. It also seems to attract less dirt and grit.
I have now used it on my 15-22 and the results seem excellent. After setting the gun in the sun for less than 30 minutes the parts were all warm enough to be uncomfortable to the touch. BTW I live in the Phoenix, AZ area so this makes that part of the directions easy to follow without an artificial heat source. After generously applying FL paste it instantly turns liquid and flows into all of the areas that have been hard to reach in the past. I then returned the parts to the sun and allowed the FL to "season" as they put it. Around 30 minutes later I began the cleaning process and found that the gun literally wiped clean with virtually no scrubbing, other than in the barrel. I have always had a little trouble getting the rear face of the barrel and ramp clean and the FL just seemed to dissolve all of the deposits and all I had to do was wipe it off with a micro fiber towel. I have even used the liquid version as my only lube for those parts that need it. The liquid does seem to solidify after some time and stays right where it is put.
As far as it's cleaning ability I am very pleased. I will be going to the range this week to give it a field test and I will report back after that. While I am not ready to switch over to FL completely, I am encouraged by the initial results. I have never before used a true CLP product because I have always found it hard to believe that one product could clean and lubricate effectively, functions that seem to be at odds with each other.
I would love to hear anyone else's experiences so we can compare notes.
RichH

 

[baccusboy]

I have never read anything negative, and have seen lots of happy people using it.

 

[Bob R]

My only concern is long time use. If it has to be warm to apply, and now I am hearing the liquid seems to solidify, I would be hesitant to use it for fear of gunking up a gun too bad. What happens after the gun cools down, and what happens in low (below freezing) temps? Just a thought.

bob

 

[Kayback]

Eeeeeeeeh. I'd give it a pass thanks. I'll stick to SLip 2000.

FL may be good for cleaning the bore out, but still, I'd prefer something that works at room temperature. If you NEED a grease, SLIP make the EWG.

FL is meant to be good at removign corrosion and preventing further corrosion. I don't take my 15-22 into sea water very often......

KBK

 

[photoracer]

I'll stick with Eezox as it is a better rust inhibiter for a CLP.

 

[yugowego]

Ill stick with Royal Purple

 

[rraisley]

I'll stick with Eezox as it is a better rust inhibiter for a CLP.

I've read your recommendations for Eezox before, and because of that have bought and used it for about 4 months now. I'm generally very happy, but I sometimes wonder if it's lubing as well as necessary. In shooting my Buck Mark a couple days ago, it started having a few ejection problems. Just seemed like the slide wasn't moving quite as freely as it should. Dropped a couple drops of Rem oil on the slide, and it seemed to cure up.

I know Eezox protects, and it seems to clean easier. I just wonder if, during normal cleaning, I'm getting enough lube on the parts. I'm certain I'm using more than required (that is, I put more than a few drops on my rags when I wipe down the areas, cleaning and lubing them), but always make sure I wipe them "dry".

Have you found it necessary to do any additional lube, or should I be using the Eezox a bit differently?

 

[tacticool22]

I have been trying Frog Lube and FIREClean. I'm very impressed with both.

 

[Martimus]

I've been using FL for a while now... no issues, no evidence of it "gunking" up things, and a bunch of happy, and reliable, weapons. I got no complaints about Frog Lube!

 

[aguablanco]

Frog Lube

First, I am not advocating anyone change products, I am just reporting what I am learning. I have always been hesitant to try new products, so much so, I just started using the synthetic oils a couple of years ago. However, I have come to the conclusion that there are better products than petroleum based lubes and cleaners, and I decided to give a new one a try. I now find out I made a mistake in my original post in that the liquid does not gel up, it stays in a liquid form much like oil. Also, after reading FL's website, it seems that the product works well in Alaska according to the testimonial page. I will continue to use this product over the next several months and update this thread with any relevant observations.
RichH

 

[Kayback]

There was a rather heated debate about this product on M4Carbine.net. It was revealed that it is rollercoaster grease that has been repackaged.

If you're happy using that on your guns, go for it.

KBK

 

[Martimus]

Personally I wouldn't care what other uses there are for FL so long as it works... and it certainly seems to. After all, there are also people who lubricate their rifles with Mobil One (synthetic motor oil) and they are also quite pleased with the results.

 

[aguablanco]

Personally I wouldn't care what other uses there are for FL so long as it works... and it certainly seems to. After all, there are also people who lubricate their rifles with Mobil One (synthetic motor oil) and they are also quite pleased with the results.

That is exactly the point, what works is what's best. I have my doubts about the roller coaster story, however, even if true it doesn't seem to be the knock it is intended to be as millions each year trust their life to roller coaster maintenance. Probably more than rely on firearms. My main reason for trying this product has been to find a CLP that I like and trust, and then pass my observations on. I never intended to change anyone's mind.
RichH

 

[Kayback]

I wasn't saying don't use it, just what came out of a different discussion.

My friend uses Lithium grease on his custom Les Baer 1911. People will use what they want.

I personally prefer Slip, but that is me. Was just sharing information so people can make an informed choice.

KBK

 

[Majorlk]

Personally I wouldn't care what other uses there are for FL so long as it works... and it certainly seems to. After all, there are also people who lubricate their rifles with Mobil One (synthetic motor oil) and they are also quite pleased with the results.

And ATF fluid is also highly recommended by many professional shooters. There's more than one good lubricant out there folks.

 

[aguablanco]

Follow Up

This past week I have been to the range twice, 1 practice session and 1 tactical match with no cleaning in between. Total round count is about 450. Since it is night I didn't have the opportunity to pre heat the parts so I started by swabbing the FL on everything to be cleaned and allowed it to sit for 30 minutes or so. When I went to clean the gun the FL had liquefied somewhat which made it easy to wipe off. I was very pleased to discover that I did not have to scrub anything with a brush. All of the grime and deposits wiped right off with qtips and a rag. Ran the bore snake through twice and then used a cotton swab dipped in liquid FL to finish cleaning the barrel. It was shiny clean with no visible deposits. It was also apparent that the FCG area had way less grime than usual and it was easily cleaned with more qtips. Gratefully, I saw no unusual wear on any parts. I also had no malfunctions during either session. I cleaned the gun while watching TV with the wife and she commented on the pleasant odor. All in all I have to say I am pleased so far. The lubrication seems, at the least, to be effective and it also seems to either attract less grime or hold less grime. Either of which is desirable. So far so good.
RichH

 

[aguablanco]

I spoke with Michael from FL today to ask a few questions since some of the comments here got me to thinking. Actually, FL did begin as a lubricant for roller coasters, which kind of amazed me. Not that it matters. I was really more curious how many times I would have to heat the parts to allow the FL to season in to them. It seems, according to Michael, that 2-3 times of heating up the parts will be plenty. After that it is only necessary to clean and lubricate in a more normal way, with the parts cold. This new info encourages me even more, knowing that very soon after switching over, I will be able to use FL as I would any other CLP. As an aside, I was at the range this weekend for a USPSA pistol match and I was rather pleasantly surprised to find out that may of my fellow competitors are now also using FL in everything from production guns to the high end open guns. Since my limited gun needed a little work, and I dropped it at the gunsmith's shack right after the match, I didn't get a chance to clean it and see how well that went. I will clean it upon it's return and see how it goes.
RichH

 

[Majorlk]

Actually, FL did begin as a lubricant for roller coasters,

Virtually all "hot shot" gun lubricants were developed for some other mundane lubrication function and became gun lubes when some shooter working in that industry decided to try it out on a firearm - Waa Laa, instant new "better than everything else" gun lube.

 

[aguablanco]

I almost forgot to relay the fact that while this started out as a roller coaster lube, it has been re engineered to take the higher heat and cyclical rates of firearms. My biggest concern is wear, which I will be looking for very closely.
RichH

 

[Majorlk]

I almost forgot to relay the fact that while this started out as a roller coaster lube, it has been re engineered to take the higher heat and cyclical rates of firearms. My biggest concern is wear, which I will be looking for very closely.
RichH

I cannot imagine that the wear level on any small arm (as opposed to artillery) would come even close to that on the wheels, tracks and bearings on a coaster.