Getting handgun from out of state

[Fessor]

I found a S&W HD that I'd like to buy but the seller lives in Buffalo NY and I live in New Mexico. He does not want to sell to an out of state buyer. I've said that shipping is no legal issue and that I'd pay, but he doesn't want to ship.
Does the membership have any ideas on what I can do?
Thanks

 

[rbmac52]

Ask the seller if he would be willing to have his FFL broker the sale. He can't be terribly inconvenienced to deliver the gun to the shop. Bottom line is, the seller is calling the shots here. Some people just have to do things their way. Hope it works out in your favor.

 

[wantmoresmiths]

I have bought and sold quite a few guns out of state, and agree with RBMAC52. Ask to seller to talk with his local FFL dealer to see just how easy and completely legal the transaction can be. Remind the seller that no matter what, he is required to complete the sale through a FFL dealer, the only difference will be the need for his dealer to ship the gun to a FFL dealer in New Mexico. As long as you are willing to pick up the tab for the shipping, there is no added work on the sellers part.

Hope this works out for you.

 

[dacoontz]

I can't imagine that the laws would allow him to sell a gun privately to someone in state any easier then for him to go through his ffl and have them ship it out of state. Either way, he has to go through an ffl to get the gun transfered. Isn't that the way handgun laws are in New York?

 

[deadin]

The beauty of using an FFL on each end is they can send the gun via USPS Flat Rate Priority Mail. (Much cheaper!!)

 

[blujax01]

I bought a gun from a fellow who had it at his winter (Florida) home but it was registered at his summer (N.Y. State) home. He too was concerned and called the local New York Sheriff for advice.
This is what it took to satisfy him. I sent him a copy of my Driver's license along with a letter declaring intended receipt of the gun from him. My letter of acceptance included the make, model and serial number and "released him for any and all responsibility where said firearm was concerned". He in turn took the gun to a gun shop and had it sent to my local gun shop. He included with the gun a copy of his driver's license and a bill of sale which stated that upon receipt by me, he was released from any and all responsibility for the gun.
Ridiculous? Probably. Effective? Definitely. It put the seller at ease and I got the gun I wanted.

 

[pwhphd]

Some states [like mine, Tennessee] allow sale Face-To-Face sales among state residents to be made with no documentation requried, other than determining that the buyer is 21 years old and his declaration that he is not a felon. Even in spite of this, I try to do all my purchases and sales through my FFL. It assures both buyer and seller that the firearm is not a gun that has been reported as stolen. Sticking with a good FFL has more benefits than costs; not the lease of which is his opinion, which can be very valuable indeed.

 

[2152hq]

The seller needs a receipt from an FFL, to show to his local licensing office where the revolver went when it was sold.
They use that to delete the handgun from his NYS Permit so he is no longer responsible for it.
(In state sales between individuals are allowed in most cases but require a notarized receipt,,but that's a different issue)

Having a local gunshop in Buffalo handle the transaction would take care of it very easily.
The Buffalo Gun Center on Harlem Rd would most likely handle it. They are about the largest in the Buffalo area.
http://www.buffaloguncenter.com/index.html

He does need a receipt from an FFL to show where the gun went. That receipt (and license copy if for some reason he ships it directly out of state) is needed to give to the local licensing authority (Erie County (Buffalo,NY) Clerks Office I'd assume in this case).
They'll then delete the revolver from his NYS Permit so he's no longer responsible for it.

An FFL doing the transfer will give him the receipt and necessary paperwork needed to delete the gun when he drops it off for shipment. They have to log it in from him, then out to the FFL in NM.

Before shipping it himself to an FFL in NM (if he chooses that route), he should check with his Clerks Office,,as some do not accept the receipt and/or license copy of an out of state FFL as proof of a sale unless both partys are FFLs.

Others do,,,it's a fine system!

 

[Speedo2]

Man, that sucks. But it doesn't sound as bad as they have it in PRK. I've been told that in kali after filling out all the forms, the seller has to present himself to a local magistrate, whirl a bag of chicken bones over his head while hopping of one foot and muttering an incantation that goes something like:
"Oohhh Wahhhh"
"Taggoooooo"
"Siammmmm"

Or something like that. At least that's what I've been told. -S2

 

[S&W_aussie]

Hmm...you should try bringing one from the US to Australia.....now there is a challenge!

 

[gjamison]

if you had a c&r ffl this would be real easy. all you would have to do is send a copy of your c&r to him with a bill of sale. than he would take that to his pistol permit clerk and remove it from his permit. but than again leaving in ny each county has it's own way of doing business.