Getting old, thinking of selling my collection

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I am 73, and thinking of selling my 50+ year collection. All have been fired but two. Most fired under 100 rounds. Most are in like new condition. m-48 full target 6", M24, .44 spec. 4", M 29-2, 4", M657 4", M 1950 Target ,44 Spec. 6", M1955 .45acp in mahogany box, unfired, M10 blue, 4" pencil barrel, M1905 M&P, .32-20, 5", New Heritage M17 in gold box unfired, 2 lend/lease in .455 Ely [reamed to .45 Long Colt] 6", M25, .45 LC, 6", M625 Stainless 3" in ,45acp. Would like to sell all together
 
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All are interesting. I think a local dealer would buy your collection for resale, possibly a collector. Either would have to have the scratch to take all of them, of course. You have a fine collection, you should be proud of the time and effort you put into it. Best wishes.
 
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If you are motivated to go through the hoops,go for it!
Otherwise, consider donating the a non profit 2A group and claim the highest insurance market values on your tax deduction!
 
I am 73, and thinking of selling my 50+ year collection. All have been fired but two. Most fired under 100 rounds. Most are in like new condition. m-48 full target 6", M24, .44 spec. 4", M 29-2, 4", M657 4", M 1950 Target ,44 Spec. 6", M1955 .45acp in mahogany box, unfired, M10 blue, 4" pencil barrel, M1905 M&P, .32-20, 5", New Heritage M17 in gold box unfired, 2 lend/lease in .455 Ely [reamed to .45 Long Colt] 6", M25, .45 LC, 6", M625 Stainless 3" in ,45acp. Would like to sell all together
Selling all in a lot is a pipe dream. Few have that kind of cash to afford such a thing. I would suggest finding an on-line auction house. They take possession, handle the description, advertising, sale, shipping and etc. when complete, they write you a check. Do they take a fee? Of course. But, unless you want to handle all the details, it is well worth it.

I have been taking 3-5 guns a month to my local internet auction house. Great folks.

Kevin
 
I see these these retirement threads come up from time to time. It's funny, I did not start collecting mostly old Smith revolvers till I retired three years ago. Had a few all my life but not as a hobby. I am 69 now and have collected probably 85 firearms since then. I gave up the motorcycles, boats, cars, trucks etc. Ya gotta have a hobby, and for me this is the best one for a old fat guy that can't do what I used to. Of course health and finances are priority. I made a journal of all my firearms for one I can look at what I have, but mostly for my son that will inherit them. You don't want your loved ones not having a clue the history and worth. Just my thoughts.
 
If you are motivated to go through the hoops,go for it!
Otherwise, consider donating the a non profit 2A group and claim the highest insurance market values on your tax deduction!

I am an IRS-credentialed Enrolled Agent. That is, I'm a professional tax preparer who has passed a series of exams and I am admitted to practice before the IRS. For a donation that large, he couldn't just use fair market value to determine the amount of his charitable contribution deduction. Any donation valued at over $5,000 requires an appraisal and the completion of IRS Form 8283.

Of course, that assumes he'll even be able to itemize deductions, which is going to be situationally dependent. If the OP is married and he and his spouse will both be 65 or greater and file a joint tax return, their standard deduction for Tax Year 2025 will be $33,200 ($30k for MFJ, $3,200 extra for both over 65). Assuming their house is paid off and there is no mortgage interest, and they max the $10k SALT cap, and they don't have medical expenses in excess of 7.5% of their AGI, he'd still have $23,200 of standard deduction before it would help to itemize. That $23,200 eats up A LOT of the value of those guns, so he wouldn't really get that much of a tax benefit for donating them. (That's just shy of an average $2,000 for each of the 12 guns he listed.) Even if he and his wife are in the highest tax bracket, which would surprise me, given that he appears to be a former/retired firefighter, that's only a tax savings of 37% of the appraised value exceeding the aforementioned $23,200.

Yeah, the charitable organization would benefit greatly from the donation, but the OP would not likely see a substantial tax benefit, if he saw any, at all.

He would likely be much better off contacting a local auction house, as others have mentioned, and letting them take a 10% cut of the final sale price from him and get themselves a 15% buyer's premium, as well. Assuming those 12 guns sell for an average of $1,500, that's a total sale price of $18,000, or $16,200 in the OP's pocket. Assuming they appraise at a similar amount and the OP's tax situation is remotely similar to what I outlined above, he would get ZERO tax benefit from donating them to charity.

Of course, if the OP did sell them, and did receive more for them than he paid, he would be required by tax law to report that amount as a gain on his tax return. Since the OP refers to them as a collection, it stands to reason the IRS would determine they are collectibles, and the gain would be taxed at 28%, the tax rate for any gain on the sale of collectibles held for a year or more. If he simply reported it as a long-term capital gain on the disposal of personal property, the tax rate would be either 0, 15, or 20%, depending on the OP's total income. If personal property is disposed of for less than the price paid to acquire it, the taxpayer doesn't get to take a loss on their return.
 
You would lose some of the value but we have 2 LGS that buy whole collections. If interested my LGS (no affiliation other than I spend too much money there) does internet offers and can supply shipping labels, etc. I have known the owner for several years and yes, he is in it to make money but has been fair with me. If interested check out these guys. Local Indiana small firearms dealer.

 
Only an auction house can handle that. Heritage. Morphy. Rock island. One of those.

Why you think you're too old at 73 to own dozens of guns mystifies me considering that I own more guns than most people and just acquired a couple this past year or two and I'm older than you. :D
Well they might not be highway miles if you know what I mean.
 
I see these these retirement threads come up from time to time. It's funny, I did not start collecting mostly old Smith revolvers till I retired three years ago. Had a few all my life but not as a hobby. I am 69 now and have collected probably 85 firearms since then. I gave up the motorcycles, boats, cars, trucks etc. Ya gotta have a hobby, and for me this is the best one for a old fat guy that can't do what I used to. Of course health and finances are priority. I made a journal of all my firearms for one I can look at what I have, but mostly for my son that will inherit them. You don't want your loved ones not having a clue the history and worth. Just my thoughts.
My dad was on his "last car" for 30 years and 5 cars:) .
 
Well, like we often say, list 'em in our classifieds here. Advantage is buyers who know what they are.

I agree, though, if you just want minimal fuss, go with a reputable auction house and wait for the check.
 
I am 73, and thinking of selling my 50+ year collection. All have been fired but two. Most fired under 100 rounds. Most are in like new condition. m-48 full target 6", M24, .44 spec. 4", M 29-2, 4", M657 4", M 1950 Target ,44 Spec. 6", M1955 .45acp in mahogany box, unfired, M10 blue, 4" pencil barrel, M1905 M&P, .32-20, 5", New Heritage M17 in gold box unfired, 2 lend/lease in .455 Ely [reamed to .45 Long Colt] 6", M25, .45 LC, 6", M625 Stainless 3" in ,45acp. Would like to sell all together
Wow, nice group for sure. I think we need more information. Are you doing it so the family isn't burdened with liquidating your collection? Have you lost interest in the hobby and wish to move on? Do you want to sell it and get that old restored Porsche you've always wanted?

There are several firms on Gunbroker who seem to bring in pretty good values and their consignment fees are reasonable. With the high value of some of your guns, perhaps you can negotiate a better fee. They are all auctions and when you add up everything together, some will do better than expected and some will do worse, but on overall average you will get fair market value less consignment cost.

Should you sell on consignment auctions, your collection will be liquidated in a month or two. You will have to do very little and someone will do all the work for you.

Now - if your worried about your family liquidating your collection - you can leave simple instructions on who to contact to liquidate for you. Who you pick for your liquidation auction is important. There are some very good dealers with great marketing and a following. They always seem to get decent prices.

In my opinion selling in one lump to a dealer will get you a lot less than auctions. They are going to have to pay a lot less in order to come out OK. If you want some suggestions on who to contact, please PM me. I have seen some pretty impressive operations, legit and trustworthy, who could make your job easy.
 
I am 73, and thinking of selling my 50+ year collection. All have been fired but two. Most fired under 100 rounds. Most are in like new condition. m-48 full target 6", M24, .44 spec. 4", M 29-2, 4", M657 4", M 1950 Target ,44 Spec. 6", M1955 .45acp in mahogany box, unfired, M10 blue, 4" pencil barrel, M1905 M&P, .32-20, 5", New Heritage M17 in gold box unfired, 2 lend/lease in .455 Ely [reamed to .45 Long Colt] 6", M25, .45 LC, 6", M625 Stainless 3" in ,45acp. Would like to sell all together
By the way, I'm sure we've all seen 5 or 6 of your guns we would like to buy. I know I have!
 
If you want to sell as a lot, come up with a price and list it here in the want to sell forum. There are some folks that would be interested in that type of arrangement. If I was a buyer of a collection like yours, I would expect us to share the benefit of the deal. A lot buyer is saving you time / effort to sell individually so a reasonable discount would be in order.
 
Of course, if the OP did sell them, and did receive more for them than he paid, he would be required by tax law to report that amount as a gain on his tax return. Since the OP refers to them as a collection, it stands to reason the IRS would determine they are collectibles, and the gain would be taxed at 28%, the tax rate for any gain on the sale of collectibles held for a year or more. If he simply reported it as a long-term capital gain on the disposal of personal property, the tax rate would be either 0, 15, or 20%, depending on the OP's total income. If personal property is disposed of for less than the price paid to acquire it, the taxpayer doesn't get to take a loss on their return.
Interesting tip you just gave all of us. I already like you :). I always wondered about that, if you could call your purchases an "investment" instead of a collections and pay the appropriate long term capital gains instead of collectible tax. For many elderly retirees, this could result in very low taxes. Planned properly, with offsetting investment losses, there could be little to no tax legally.

Like cash tips, I have to believe that gain on collectibles is a little reported source of income for small collections. I would imagine the auction houses do some reporting because of their volume and structure. I doubt the consignment sellers do. It would be interesting to find out. That is an important point for someone with a decades old collection. Gun Broker should be required to report (1099K) for annual sales exceeding $5,000 but I'm not sure if they do. I know they are not collecting the California excise tax (11%) yet for sales to CA residents.
 
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The sad thing about a 50 year collection is the cost to you is NOT factored for inflation so you will be TAXED ON INFLATION. When social security contributions are FACTORED for inflation, in my case the contributions were multiplied by up to 9 times their original amount. Had the govt stayed on the silver and gold standards, these things would never have happened and they knew it. Just attaching an original cost to any investment does NOT cover the true cost. To do so is just robbery by any agency involved.
Think of this when you sell your collection or any other long term held asset. It's time that situation was CORRECTED PERMANENTLY.
 
I am 73, and thinking of selling my 50+ year collection. All have been fired but two. Most fired under 100 rounds. Most are in like new condition. m-48 full target 6", M24, .44 spec. 4", M 29-2, 4", M657 4", M 1950 Target ,44 Spec. 6", M1955 .45acp in mahogany box, unfired, M10 blue, 4" pencil barrel, M1905 M&P, .32-20, 5", New Heritage M17 in gold box unfired, 2 lend/lease in .455 Ely [reamed to .45 Long Colt] 6", M25, .45 LC, 6", M625 Stainless 3" in ,45acp. Would like to sell all together
73! Old? I am 87 years old. I regret every gun I sold! Unless you are in bad health, or destitute, 73 is not old! There is a reason you bought all those guns. You will miss them when they are gone. I have sold and given away a few guns and I miss every one of them!
 
I see these these retirement threads come up from time to time. It's funny, I did not start collecting mostly old Smith revolvers till I retired three years ago. Had a few all my life but not as a hobby. I am 69 now and have collected probably 85 firearms since then. I gave up the motorcycles, boats, cars, trucks etc. Ya gotta have a hobby, and for me this is the best one for a old fat guy that can't do what I used to. Of course health and finances are priority. I made a journal of all my firearms for one I can look at what I have, but mostly for my son that will inherit them. You don't want your loved ones not having a clue the history and worth. Just my thoughts.
Absolutely, and very well put.
 
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