Ghillie Suit

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I'm looking to buy a Ghillie Suit for Crow and Varmint shooting out back. I know some of our members have these and would like your input on pros and cons of different ones. I won't be doing a lot of walking in it if that helps.
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I'm not a hunter, but one day I'd like to so, I have a question; is this level of camouflage really necessary?

The Ghillie suit is not intended to be an off-the-shelf garment. It is designed so that the user can augment it with local foliage. Sure, there is the variety that has the long dread lock style of treatment, but it will also have a kind of net so things can be stuck in it to simulate local plants/bushes. If done properly, the skilled wearer will literally disappear.

Is this really necessary for shots that are going to exceed 200 yards?
 
"Is this really necessary for shots that are going to exceed 200 yards?

Ya never know if those tricky buggers are gonna be equipped with spotting scopes and finely tuned sniper rifles. :rolleyes:

In a word... NO! Common surplus camo duds, or even just subdued, earth-tone clothing, works quite well. Maybe also a face veil (in bright light). Otherwise, stick to shadows and cover and everything will be copacetic.
 
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I have a question; is this level of camouflage really necessary?

The OP says he might want it for crow hunting. Crows can actually recognize the human face. Don't ask me how, okay? Plus they see in color. So it might help. I never used camo of any type. I just kept my head/face down as the crows were coming in to the call.

Is this really necessary for shots that are going to exceed 200 yards?

My opinion and experiences say no, it isn't. Especially at that distance. Think of the distance of two football fields. That's a long way. Animals' eyes are excellent at picking up movement. If you're seated or prone and remain still, the animal won't pick you up, nor will it recognize your shape as that of some sort of anomaly. You're just another part of the landscape as long as you're still. The slight movement of your rifle barrel might get noticed, but by the time the animal realizes the danger, it's usually too late. Especially if it's one of those animals I call pop-up critters...groundhogs, prairie dogs, woodchucks, etc. They're prone to stand up on their hind legs to get a look around, which makes them an excellent target.
 
Have been hunting deer since 1982. With good camouflage and a bit of care it is possible to get very close to deer. On a few occasions I've gotten as close as maybe 10 foot. At that distance, well, you can see the hair on their shoulder move. And, they can see you just as well. Ghillie suit properly matched to surroundings would allow you a meaningful advantage for getting close. It would be helpful if simply sitting by a tree watching and waiting for deer to move, come close, etc. Closest I ever shot a deer was maybe 25 foot. I was wearing BDU's and blck army boots all given to me by my brother. It was to hot/heavy for the weather, but it did a fine job in the swamp/woods where I was hunting. I am looking/thinking ahead to next year. I will probably do some sort of Ghillie suit. The area where I will be hunting will be mostly wet, swampy, scrub oaks, etc. Any shot is just about guaranteed to be from hard off the muzzle to maybe 100 yds. I won't need a cannon. I figure my .30-06 will be just fine. I've never had a deer stand up after the first shot. I figure a Ghillie suit will let me move alone and get in close. Sincerely. bruce.
 
I'm not a hunter, but one day I'd like to so, I have a question; is this level of camouflage really necessary?

Is this really necessary for shots that are going to exceed 200 yards?

Doug we varmint hunt with shotguns 90% of the time. We try to call them in closer than 100 yards, 50 yards or less if we are using shotguns. I rarely shoot at one more than 100 yards with a .223 or .243. I think the 200 yards plus shots are more frenquent in the west. I am not saying it does not happen here in the Southeast, but I think that is the exception rather than the rule, especially in heavily wooded areas. A huge part of the fun of the hunt is calling them in close. We have called bobcats (which we don’t shoot) nearly into our laps.
 
Doug—here is typical fence-line/tree-line/hay-meadow varmint set in the this area. This on a neighbors field next to our place on opening day of dove season (September 1). As you can see, you are lucky to get a clear 20 yard shot, much less 200. He shot the fox down the fencline at about 50 yards with an AR. He had on a full camo hood/face shield too that he took off for the pictures.
 

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Where I live, those that hunt varmints are usually looking at 100 yards or more.

Even if they are going to be closer, I think the Ghillie suit is a little over kill (pun intended). Isn't the real key just sitting still? As I understand it, there are two "give aways" to the hunter; smell and movement. The Ghillie suit won't help with smell at all. Only being down wind is any real help there.

Movement is solely up to the hunter. I once heard a story of a guy who wanted to prove that sitting still was the key. So, he went turkey hunting in complete blaze orange. He sat at the base of a tree and didn't move. Eventually a turkey walked in range and he shot it. Again, I'm no hunter, but this is a dramatic example to me.

Even so, this is all just conjecture from me. I'd love to come out to your place one day, John, and have you show me the ropes.
 
I’ve had mulies walk within ten yards of me when wearing camo and face paint with some brush breaking up my outline
I’m standing there with arrows still in the quiver unable to make a move without spooking em lol
 
I am with the crowd that thinks it is a bit overkill. Movement and scent are bigger giveaways than camouflage. Also a good part of it is where you set up. Backed into some brush or against some natural feature is way better than sky lined or in a barren area. I was sitting on a log beside a trail once waiting for enough daylight to start a hunt and heard a noise behind me. A coyote had walked up to with in a couple of yards of me. Coyotes are very cautious, but, I have had them come pretty close when I have been sitting still in a place that broke up my outline. Same with deer. If you don't move and they don't smell you, your just part of the background.


How many times have you spotted one animal moving, then after seeing it observed more nearby you had missed until spotting the one that moved?
 
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Not necessary but they are helpful and increase your chances. One warning however! I refuse to use one made of jute or burlap. They can catch on fore almost as easy as a can of gas. An earth tone hunting shirt with strips of different earth tone cloth such as cotton or wool stitched on works very well. Don't forget the head cover too.
 
moosedog how big are you? I have a outer shell for a US Army parka that you could attach strips of cloth too.
 
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