GOP Senators voting for Gun Bill

[S&WIowegan]

Stay calm people. This a political game...the Republicans are voting to bring it to the floor for debate and real on-the-record votes! They are forcing the Dems to go on record.....either vote no and stick it to Obama or vote yes and get beat at home the next time they run.

Wait and see!!!

 

[mstuhr]

Can't be too careful

"I cannot imagine any condition which would cause a ship to founder. I cannot conceive of any vital disaster happening to this vessel. Modern ship building has gone beyond that."
-Captain Smith, Commander of Titanic

Thanks
Mike

 

[HAWKEYE10]

We don't have any GOPs in CA.

The way things are going it's hard to tell the difference. Don

 

[ancient-one]

I just tried to contact Tom Coburn's Office and got a recording that 'they' were on the phone and to leave a message. When switched to the voice mail I got "I'm sorry, that mailbox is full". I wonder how many of these senators will have new 'jobs' working for Bloomburg after he buys this congress off. He's the only one with the money to do this and he said that he would.

I am extreamly dissappointed in Tom Coburn as I always thought that he was his own man. Looks like I was wrong.


Art

Senator Coburn is a man of intense intelligence and integrity. I have
been corresponding with him on this matter and just last night I received a long email. The reason he wants an open debate, is to make Senators who support gun control be required to vote in the open exposing and defending their position.
Your can be sure he will not be bought by Bloomberg or anyone else and he won't need a job, he still has a medical practice to return to if he so chooses.

 

[GKC]

I really don't care if it's a procedural vote or not...this is the time that Senators and Representatives need to stand up for what they believe. I believe that the Senate and House need to address more compelling and urgent issues than debating gun control legislation that won't solve the problem with violence. Instead, they need to focus on the budget, employment, the economy, etc.

Any politician who could not stand firm from the outset on this issue would not ever get my vote again. I thank God every day that I live in Texas.

 

[gregintenn]

If they'd simply voted not to bring it to the Senate floor, it would be over now. Not doing that tells me these clowns are receptive to the idea of some form of gun control. I find that simply unacceptable.

Surely they have more important matters to attend to assuming they don't plan to at least consider this legislation.

 

[tjfenske]

Politicos and Diapers need frequent changing, for the same reason.

 

[CW Spook]

I'm pleased to announce that my senator, Chas. Grassley stood firm. Of course our other senator, Chuck Schumer's mini-me Tom Harkin voted the other way.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Noticed all four Senators from TN and GA (all four A & A+ rated and endorsed by the NRA) are on the list.

Before TN and GA gun owners commit hari-kari for voting for these guys, keep in mind this is a procedural vote. I agree with Bob from Iowa and others... there are more subtle agendas in play.

That said, I do believe polling that show overwhelming support, including gun owners, for some type expansion of NICS. It would be nice if pro-gun legislators in Washington got a little more support on this issue! NRA can only do so much.

 

[V-35]

Senator Coburn is a man of intense intelligence and integrity. I have
been corresponding with him on this matter and just last night I received a long email. The reason he wants an open debate, is to make Senators who support gun control be required to vote in the open exposing and defending their position.
Your can be sure he will not be bought by Bloomberg or anyone else and he won't need a job, he still has a medical practice to return to if he so chooses.

I refer you you to post #26 in this thread to explane my disgust with Tom Coburn's vote yesterday. This would be over except for them. I called his office the day before yesterday and his staffer Assured me that the senator would vote against Any new 'Gun Control' until the laws that we now have are enforced.

I have always been a very big supporter of Tom Coburn ...... until now. I just think that Chuck Schumer et.al. have worn him down, and I'm very disappointed as this would be over (for this session at least) except for these 'enablers'. The Prez has already said how proud he is of them. That alone would mean that I'm Not.

Art

 

[gregintenn]

Noticed all four Senators from TN and GA (all four A & A+ rated and endorsed by the NRA) are on the list.

Before TN and GA gun owners commit hari-kari for voting for these guys, keep in mind this is a procedural vote. I agree with Bob from Iowa and others... there are more subtle agendas in play.

That said, I do believe polling that show overwhelming support, including gun owners, for some type expansion of NICS. It would be nice if pro-gun legislators in Washington got a little more support on this issue! NRA can only do so much.

You place a lot more confidence in Corker and Alexander than I do. If they'd start voting correctly, they'd find a lot more support.

 

[DavidA]

Yep, I hired the Senator from NC. I sure am sorry. I am ready to fire his sorry butt now. He will pay for it when he comes up for re-election.

 

[doublesharp]

the frog in the hot water said it's just a little warmer.......nothing to worry about yet.

 

[Lost Lake]

I do believe polling that show overwhelming support, including gun owners, for some type expansion of NICS. It would be nice if pro-gun legislators in Washington got a little more support on this issue! NRA can only do so much.

I'd like to read what the pollsters actually asked. The way you phrase the question means a lot, and they phrase questions to get the answers they want.

Pollsters are in business to make money, and deliver poll results that show support for whoever hires them.

 

[Etemmu]

This just opens up the debate on the floor. The more important, and much more telling, event will be the votes on the actual bill(s).

 

[ISCS Yoda]

Because it is a procedural vote these GOP geniuses get to say they stood up and allowed a fair debate. That will work for them come election time. If they vote FOR the actual bill, that's different.
But, still, in the event they pass something, then what? It still requires the House to pass it - assuming Boehner even allows it to come to the floor.
Worst case - it becomes law. Then what? It closes the so called gun show loophole? Seriously, does anyone really think 40% of guns are purchased that way? It's a lie. It's a relatively small number.
As long as we can still sell our guns privately to friends, or will them to our heirs, it's a tempest in a teapot. I don't say I like it but it won't change much. Feel good legislation never does.

I have another question on this but it requires a new thread, to be fair to this one.

***GRJ***

 

[fdw]

Thanks for the list. Just sent Senator Graham an email detailing my displeasure...

 

[HereSinceTheLongHunters]

Well.... more time to write 'em all. Might help to compile a list of arguments and key points here... maybe the mother of all 2A support letters to send to everyone everywhere...???? Keep it concise, intelligent & potent...

Just read that Senators are supposedly going home for the weekend to speak with constituents.. Please post/compile your collective thoughts and light up the phones/inboxes asap...

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I'd like to read what the pollsters actually asked. The way you phrase the question means a lot, and they phrase questions to get the answers they want.

Pollsters are in business to make money, and deliver poll results that show support for whoever hires them.

Here is one, among others. This one is by Fox News. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2013/01/18/fox-news-poll-gun-rights-and-gun-control/

[[ 34.-43. Do you favor or oppose each of the following proposals to reduce gun violence?

Requiring criminal background checks on all
gun buyers, including those buying at gun
shows and private sales.

------- 91% Favor ]]

I don't think the question was too tricky for most gun owners to comprehend.

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So we can scream and complain all we want about lawmakers.... but IMO it's gun owners who aren't stepping up to the plate to fight background checks. Like I said, the NRA can only do so much.

 

[riderrick65]

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It's nothing more than a procedural vote to allow the bill to come to the floor. Then they get to debate/vote on the bill and any amendments added to it. That's when the fun begins. The DEMs will try to add amendments for an assault weapons ban & high capacity magazine limits (they have already indicated so) and will most likely try to add some amendment about school safety so when the REPs vote against it they can say that "The Republicans are against protecting our children by voting against this law". So even though the procedural vote might not mean much, it's opening the door for the DEMs to embarrass the REPs once again by forcing them to vote NO. Even if this makes it out of the Senate, House Speaker JB has already said it would not make it to a vote. So I'm not too worried about it passing. More worried about the fallout in 2014.

Hope your right partner!