Got a bunch of powder yesterday

[mtgianni]

I had some difficulty selling remnants of 12 and 8 lb kegs of shotgun powders. SW MT is not really shotgun country. I was able to move some but many were concerned about nitro leaching out of paper containers. Their comments were generally OK in shotguns but might not be in small charges in handguns.

IIRC, there was a Clays, and a Universal Clays. Clays was similar to Bullseye and Universal [after a name change from Univ. Clays] was similar to Unique.

 

[CH4]

Read that they have discontinued Trail Boss.

That’s very unfortunate

I heard it was too time consuming to poke holes in each grain.

 

[Skeet 028]

That must have stung a little in the wallet.I recently picked up a 4 pound jug of Power Pistol, it was all they had and I hesitated buying it. I decided what the heck, I load a lot of my handguns with it, so I'm set for a while and already have a fair amount (for me) of other powders.

Didn't cost all that much esp with powder prices today...And open keg powder is, if not questionable concerning. After all these years I can tell many powders apart from one another. I happened to know this fellow that all this stuff belonged to. He didn't mess around. Very careful loader. In all the years I have bought estates I have only seen one pound of mixed powder...and it was marked all over the can. And got some European cut flake powder that I just disposed of. Most of that kind of powder was sold here in the 50s and maybe early 60s by Alcan...and I have loading data...but not certain about the appearence...so up in smoke! I'm going to have to check on the No Do red dot....I am pretty certain it is Clay Dot. I dob't have much use for Promo...a 12 ga powder with no pistol data that I knpw pf anyway

 

[Skeet 028]

I had some difficulty selling remnants of 12 and 8 lb kegs of shotgun powders. SW MT is not really shotgun country. I was able to move some but many were concerned about nitro leaching out of paper containers. Their comments were generally OK in shotguns but might not be in small charges in handguns.

IIRC, there was a Clays, and a Universal Clays. Clays was similar to Bullseye and Universal [after a name change from Univ. Clays] was similar to Unique.

Therewere 3Clays Powders...Clays...International Clays and Universal clays..Later shortened to one words . Powders are pretty stable and not much danger of Nitro Leaching in flake and ball powders.I once bought an estate that a lady hod poked a hole in the seals of 20 pounds of powder...filled 'em with water. I drained the water out of a pound of L'il Gun...dried it and later loaded it in both 22 Hornet and 410 AAs. Compared to new fresh powder they were both statistically identicle in velocities. I was told they would be fine. By one of the chemists for Dupont...Dupont stick powder can and may degrade over time.. But the same Dupont guy said If I had some Dupont stick powders with a bit of red rust dust in a can...dump it in a strainer to get rid of the rust dust...and go ahead and use it...If I felt unsafe reduce my load by 3%

 

[Nevada Ed]

"Trapshooters liked that Longshot".

Were they at a Turkey shoot?
I tried Longshoot powder and it was way too loud for me, in a 12 Ga. trap load.

I'm on my last inch of 4759 and will miss it but I will not buy any more.
I use a lot of Red Dot, Green and Unique in my 12 Ga. trap loads,
along with my 38, 9mm and 357 target loads.

You did well, in adding to your supplies.

 

[2152hq]

..... Does the Clay Dot look somewhat like Clays??. .....

'Alliant Clay Dot' powder has small terra cotta dics/dots in with the powder to ID it. Much the same way Green Dot and Red Dot are identified.

The actual shade may differ slightly, but this is primarily what they are colored.
Terra Cotta - Mayco

 

[Skeet 028]

Gonna take a look at that powder. I actually paid nothing for that powder. I know a fellow that probably bought powder with the deceased gentleman.If it was a surplus powder I know who to talk to about it. If I can find some data I won't have to burn it. I weighed the can. 17 1/2 pounds with the metal can...so about 15 pounds of powder

 

[Skeet 028]

The longshot was developed for Handicap shooting and long range trap games...an pistol too I think

 

[BillBro]

And here I thought I was doing well with ten pounds of trail boss

Where in the world did you find TB? Let alone 10lbs of it? Or have you had it awhile?
Id be happy with just 9lbs of it, or even 1lb.

 

[squidsix]

I guess you guys are correct. They are not pound cans.
I got lucky, a gun shop in Vermont was closing up and emptied the shipping container out back. I grabbed a little of everything, but this was all the trail boss he had. The REAL find was eight original Colt 1903 .380 magazines. He gave me a deal at $20 per.

 

[Skeet 028]

My lastcan came from an estate yard sale. 10 bucks for the can...but as you all know not much powder in those cans. I have 2 and a 1/2 approximately. I bought the original can to try in 45 Colt

 

[D Brown]

The longshot was developed for Handicap shooting and long range trap games...an pistol too I think

Longshot is my favorite powder for 3/4 ounce 28 Gauge loads.

 

[Skeet 028]

Longshot is my favorite powder for 3/4 ounce 28 Gauge loads.

What cases do you load? I still use Unique in 20/28. I have 2 8lb Longshot. With the price of Unique these days I will eventually run out. HS-6/540 is good in the 28. I DC'd hs6/540 when Winchester quit selling 540 and 571..571 loads good in the 28 also...just have to use a bit more than 540..As you can see I use many older DC'd powders mainly because I got them for pennies on the dollar...and back in the day I used whatever powder according to shotshell use. So I developed loads for most kinds of shotshwlls. If you can get Fiocchi or Rio...even Cheddite cases in 28 and 410 they load extremely well but not many times. Rio and Cheddite primers are also pretty good...but like most European primers they are just slightly larger than US sizes. The Fiocchi 616 primer is the same primers you older guys will temember as Alcan 220 Maxfire

 

[D Brown]

What cases do you load? I still use Unique in 20/28. I have 2 8lb Longshot. With the price of Unique these days I will eventually run out. HS-6/540 is good in the 28. I DC'd hs6/540 when Winchester quit selling 540 and 571..571 loads good in the 28 also...just have to use a bit more than 540..As you can see I use many older DC'd powders mainly because I got them for pennies on the dollar...and back in the day I used whatever powder according to shotshell use. So I developed loads for most kinds of shotshwlls. If you can get Fiocchi or Rio...even Cheddite cases in 28 and 410 they load extremely well but not many times. Rio and Cheddite primers are also pretty good...but like most European primers they are just slightly larger than US sizes. The Fiocchi 616 primer is the same primers you older guys will temember as Alcan 220 Maxfire

I have used Remington STS hulls in all my 28 Gauge loads to date. When I first started loading for the 28, most suitable powders were unobtainable, a phenomenon that has been recurring for the last 15 years or so. I started with Green Dot and hated it; too bulky. Went to Longshot and never looked back. I do have 16 pounds of 20/28 and 16 pounds of HS6, so eventually I will probably try those powders. Again, this will be hard for me as the Longshot load is perfect, in my opinion. It shoots like a 12 Gauge as far as busting clay targets are concerned. I will also eventually load some Federal hulls as I have 2+ cases of Federal Premium 28 Gauge Target Loads, 2 Dram Eq 3/4 oz. 8 1/2 Shot, factory rated at 1230 fps. I also have 4+ cases (500 rds/case) of factory loaded 28 Gauge Remington Premier Nitro Sporting Clays loads, 3/4 oz. 1300 fps 7 1/2 shot.

To date, I have not loaded any of the STS hulls over four times, but they still load just like once fired at that stage.

My data for the STS 28 Gauge hull is:
14.5 gr. Longshot, MEC 13A Powder Bushing
Remington PT28S Wad
3/4 oz. Magnum 8 1/2 shot
Winchester 209A Primer


Thank you,

 

[diyj98]

...Mostly Shotgun/pistol powder...but a fair amount. an 8 lb jug of Longshot 5 1/2 lbs of 7625 5 lbs of Green Dot Some Rex powder...not much 4 pounds of Promo..couple pounds of Red Dot...a can of 2400 another can of Unique and a 12 lb keg of what is called no dot Red Dot. I remember them selling a no dot red dot substitute back yonder. I think it was to be used with Clays data...Can't remember when exactly. may have later been called Clay Dot D Walt might remember better than me but I do remember discussions about it.

I bought green dot primarily for shotgun reloading, but found it worked well in 9mm and 45acp as well.