Got hold of a S&W marked U.S.N. !!?

Greg

As I read Roy's book, the star was stamped at the factory, before the
guns were shipped. There was a Navy inspector present at the factory,
and its possible that he applied the star.

Does your gun have the star marking ?

Regards, Mike

No, not a star on it. With no star and no Navy number, it is doubtful that this revolver was sold to the Navy/US Govt. It would still make sense, however, as a private sale/gift to a Navy VIP.
 
Guess we'll just have to wait, and see what the letter says.

Another possibility is that someone inside the factory made the gun
up - sometimes called lunch-box guns. They could have found an
overrun Navy frame, and maybe some parts from a rejected production
gun, and made up something for themselves. In such a case, the
gun would never have been shipped, and would be open on the books.

Mike Priwer
 
Guess we'll just have to wait, and see what the letter says.

Another possibility is that someone inside the factory made the gun
up - sometimes called lunch-box guns. They could have found an
overrun Navy frame, and maybe some parts from a rejected production
gun, and made up something for themselves. In such a case, the
gun would never have been shipped, and would be open on the books.

Mike Priwer

I had not thought of the lunch box possibility! If the records are missing, this would be the most likely scenario would it not?
 
IF the gun was a lunch-box creation, then its entry on the shipping
records would be open, meaning it was not shipped from the
shipping department. Someone would have carried it out in their
lunch box.

This is just one possibility, based on my presumption that its not
one of the 1000 1899 Navy contract guns, at this serial number.

Regards, Mike
 
Man, this is better than an adventure movie !!! It's getting better and better, gkitch !!! Can't wait to see what it is !
 
in standby

Well, the form and $50 were launched several days ago. What is the typical turn-around on a factory historical letter?
Of course, the letter is unlikely to provide concrete answers. It will, at the very least, provide us with more clues and eliminate some of our theories.

I feel we already have enough clues to presume this gun was not sold and transferred directly to the Navy as part of the known contract. No Navy number, wrong serial range, no star proofs...no way. Yet it is identical in every other way to those revolvers.
 
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Mike Priwer did, indeed, provide the missing knob and now the Mystery Navy 1899 is complete. Still waiting for the S&W letter.
 

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Now - that is a whole lot better. What a difference a nob makes !

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Regards, Mike Priwer
 
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Well, the form and $50 were launched several days ago. What is the typical turn-around on a factory historical letter?
Of course, the letter is unlikely to provide concrete answers. It will, at the very least, provide us with more clues and eliminate some of our theories.

I feel we already have enough clues to presume this gun was not sold and transferred directly to the Navy as part of the known contract. No Navy number, wrong serial range, no star proofs...no way. Yet it is identical in every other way to those revolvers.

Looking forward to the answer, in about 2-6 weeks :) .
 
Sorry, I HAD to check and make sure the S&W research letter on this one had not been posted and I missed it. It's been a month, how long does it usually take ?
 
Sorry, I HAD to check and make sure the S&W research letter on this one had not been posted and I missed it. It's been a month, how long does it usually take ?

The letters I requested in mid-February arrived shortly after the first of April. So currently the waiting period is running six-seven weeks. That includes first-class travel both ways, of course.
 
This is like a great action movie. I can't wait now either. I just picked up a 32 hand ejector, and that is how I found this thread. Wow very interesting. :D:eek::D:eek:
 
It looks to me that the last character in the serial is "@" instead of a number nine.

Nothing mysterious about that "9" - it is a number stamp that the factory used on some guns at the turn of the century. I had a .32 Safety from 1896 with that curlycue "9" and have a .32 Bicycle Gun from 1901 which has the same number stamp. I tried to take a photo but couldn't get it clear enough - trust me.
 
Well....got the letter from Roy Jinks today! Here's the scoop:
This revolver was the low serial number of ten units prepared for a Navy shipment but sold commercially. It is in original configuaration still and was shipped on 1 August, 1901 to A.B. Myers in Toledo, Ohio.
The letter states "It is a very interesting revolver". I believe the we, here on the forum, concur.
 
....shipped on 1 August, 1901 to A.B. Myers in Toledo, Ohio.

Ohio State University Alumni records show an A.B. Myers, College of Engineering, Class of 1900, employed by the U.S. Gypsum Company as a Chemical Engineer at Arden, Wisconsin as of 1923.
 
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