Got that .351sl...

[ageingstudent]

Well I couldn't stand it. This .351sl had been sitting in the rack at the LGS for the last 3 months. I traded my P220 and 100 bucks for it. Tightest and cleanest plane Jane shooter I've ever seen.

Let the brass modifications and the custom bullet sizing begin...

Love these old Winchester's.

 

[Rpg]

Very cool.

I love those older rifles.

 

[jimbo728]

That rifle is going to be fun to shoot and load for. Im glad it found a good home. It appears to be in excellent condition.
Jim

 

[ageingstudent]

That rifle is going to be fun to shoot and load for. Im glad it found a good home. It appears to be in excellent condition.
Jim

It really is in excellent condition. The forestock doesn't even have a hint of a split and the recoil spring feels strong. I don't think it got shot all that much. It's about 1955 era and not the deluxe model so it's a shooter if I can get some ammo worked up for it. The best part is I didn't have to trade one of my Smith's for it. I previously fixed up a .401 for my step dad and made ammo for it so I know what I'm in for. This one needs a lot less work though so I'm pretty stoked.

 

[Just another 22 shooter]

cool old rifle
fixed the pic for ya

 

[Rule3]

Interesting. Had to look it up, never heard of it. Does it have a parent case to reform brass from??

 

[Nevada Ed]

Many years ago in a northern deer camp above SF Calif., one of the old gentlemen use that rifle to hunt the small black tail deer
in the area.
It had five shots and medium to low recoil for a 180gr bullet, making it a good meat getter at the 150 yards shots or less in the brush country that we hunted in. 75 yards were the norm if you had a clear shot without too much "Wood" in the way.

Hope you can find lots of brass................. and have fun with the new toy with some imr 4227 powder. Bullets might be your biggest problem with that oldie but goodie.

 

[DWalt]

I had to really use willpower to keep from buying one of those at the last gun show for $400 (not in as nice condition as yours). I think .357 Maximum brass can be used to make .351 cases.

 

[ageingstudent]

cool old rifle
fixed the pic for ya

Ha thanks again! Don't know why they rotate left lately when I post.

 

[ageingstudent]

Interesting. Had to look it up, never heard of it. Does it have a parent case to reform brass from??

No parent case but as Dwalt said a little work with a .357 max and it will sing again. In a pinch .357mag can be used but they are a little short.

 

[Troystat]

Neat rifle, thanks for showing it to us and let us know how it shoots.

 

[bmcgilvray]

Great rifle! Love the Winchester self-loaders and would like to have them all.

A Winchester Model 1907 lives here. Is considered the household defense arm. I got it from the original owner who purchased it new in 1923.


Here it is loaded with a Winchester 10-round magazine.


And with a buck taken about 15 years ago.

 

[ageingstudent]

Great rifle! Love the Winchester self-loaders and would like to have them all.

A Winchester Model 1907 lives here. Is considered the household defense arm. I got it from the original owner who purchased it new in 1923.


Here it is loaded with a Winchester 10-round magazine.


And with a buck taken about 15 years ago.

Yes! I've seen your posts before and they have been very helpful in my research on both the .401 and the .351. I had a chance to get a hold of a .32 last year but it looked like much more of a project so I passed on it. The .32 was in much worse shape than this one. I was just glad to get 1 good 5 round mag. Mags are at a premium for these.

 

[ageingstudent]

This fella here has an interesting overview on this rifle if anyone is interested. Never mind the state of his bench...

https://youtu.be/4pxuRET0zIE

 

[2152hq]

Nice rifle!
Looks like it may be a 'Police Model' but I can't quite make it out from the pic.
The bbl muzzle on the PD model is 5/8" dia, the mag release is oversize from the regular production mag release.

The PD model came with a fixed rear sight in the bbl dovetail. The dovetail was closer to the frame than the sporting rifle model.
If yours has a sporting/adj rear sight replacement, the sight will be nearly right up against the frame.
Sling swivels and the 'hook' style op-rod end are also PD rifle standard features.
A heavy steel checkered butt plate would have been on the butt stock.

Fun rifles!

I have a M1910 .401 that I shoot quite often.I make brass from 7.62x39mm and use cast lead 41mag bullets. IMR 4227 powder lightly compressed.

I missed a M1905 35WSL in nice shape last fall at a show,,the guy had it tagged as a M1907. I displayed my good GShow manners & stood there and waited while another slowly made up his mind and then finally bought it.

 

[Nevada Ed]

It is also interesting how the same person took an after market 10 round magazine and modified it to work better and be like the factory magazine, by removing some metal from the...
"Riser plate" ?

Can't remember the correct term right now.........(sorry)

A LE mag with 20 rounds must have been quite a sight........
and as he mentioned, if made full auto, it did not take long for the mag to empty !

Must have been a lot of deer killed with it and the old 35 Remington back in those days.

 

[ageingstudent]

Nice rifle!
Looks like it may be a 'Police Model' but I can't quite make it out from the pic.
The bbl muzzle on the PD model is 5/8" dia, the mag release is oversize from the regular production mag release.

The PD model came with a fixed rear sight in the bbl dovetail. The dovetail was closer to the frame than the sporting rifle model.
If yours has a sporting/adj rear sight replacement, the sight will be nearly right up against the frame.
Sling swivels and the 'hook' style op-rod end are also PD rifle standard features.
A heavy steel checkered butt plate would have been on the butt stock.

Fun rifles!

I have a M1910 .401 that I shoot quite often.I make brass from 7.62x39mm and use cast lead 41mag bullets. IMR 4227 powder lightly compressed.

I missed a M1905 35WSL in nice shape last fall at a show,,the guy had it tagged as a M1907. I displayed my good GShow manners & stood there and waited while another slowly made up his mind and then finally bought it.

That's interesting. The rear adjustable sight is quite tight to the barrel and the outside of the muzzle measures 5/8". The swivels are in great shape. I don't think the recoil pad is original it's a pachmayer. Did the police model have a thicker barrel?

I've got some dummy rounds made up for it and they are chambering and ejecting nicely. Time to make up 20 test rounds and test drive this baby.

 

[Skeet 028]

Back a few years I bought a whole bunch of stuff at the DC police auction. Got 2 4 drawer filing cabinets of gun parts and 80 boxes of 351 SL ammo. 20 mags for the darn guns. But they cut the guns into pieces. I also got 40 boxes of 30 Rem ammo from Lorton Prison. Never saw any of the Remington semis they used in the prison. Or any Thompson SMGs either..

 

[2152hq]

That's interesting. The rear adjustable sight is quite tight to the barrel and the outside of the muzzle measures 5/8". The swivels are in great shape. I don't think the recoil pad is original it's a pachmayer. Did the police model have a thicker barrel?

The Police Model 07 had a heavier bbl than the Sporting Model. The Police Mod is easily ID'd by it's 5/8" di at the muzzle and the fact that the rear sight dovetail (standard was a fixed rear sight in the dovetail) is closer to the breech end of the bbl than on the sporting model.
Replacing the issue fixed rear sight with one of the sporting model adj rear bbl sights leaves that sight very close to the frame and the shooters eye.
The reason for the 5/8" dia muzzle was that a bbl muzzle sleeve was offered as an accessory to the Police model so that a bayonet could be attached to the rifle. The sleeve allowed the US Krag bayonet to be used and the 5/8" bbl dia was needed to fit the bbl ring of the bayonet.

Recoil pad is aftermarket I'm sure. If any pad was on them it would have been the red 'Winchester' marked pad. But the Police model came with a steel butt plate as standard. Sling swivels standard as well on the Police Model.
The .351 PD Model gets extra attention from collectors and just plain shooters,,,== extra $$. But originality is all important of course.

I worked in a large gunshop/restoration shop in the 90's. They had a shelf full of original Winchester .351 Police Model butt stocks and forends w/ hardware, butt plates, swivels, etc & some action parts. Couldn't give them away at the time.
Probably sold at auction for beer money.

 

[DWalt]

I also got 40 boxes of 30 Rem ammo from Lorton Prison. Never saw any of the Remington semis they used in the prison.

The .30 Rem cartridge is essentially the .30-30 Winchester with a rimless case. And back in the early days it was even called the .30-30 Remington. Many prisons and LE organizations (even the FBI) used the Remington Model 8 and Model 81 semiautomatic rifles in .30 Rem. back in the day. Those are very interesting guns, I have 4 of them at present. I have seen many boxes of Remington .30 Rem FMJ LE ammo in generic-looking white boxes, and I even have a couple of those boxes. I think the FBI .30 Rem load was a little milder than standard for some reason.